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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HD_Roadtripper
Many factors play into how an engine will perform when it comes to HP and Torque, but I'd say piston stroke is heavily related to torque.

Think about it like this, stroke is determined by the crank offset (crank centerline to connecting rod position). Larger offset will have a larger rotational stroke.
Now think about this offset like a wrench. A longer wrench (or stroke as it relates to engines) will apply more torque to the working end than if you used a shorter wrench, given the same input force to each.
A shorter wrench can be spun more quickly due to having a smaller radius (RPM), but torque is reduced.

Just my opinion....
If you setup the physics and calculate the torque applied to the crank the shorter stroke will generate the same because the square inch surface area of the piston generates more force on the rod..

What does tend to favor generating more torque is longer rod to stroke ratio.. Using the same length rod it favors the shorter stroke.

A long stoke 114 ci motor say 4.015 x 4.5 or 4.25 x 4. bore and stroke. Displacement is essentially the same..
The oversquare motors will generate very slightly torque assuming the rod lengths and cylinder pressure curves are the same.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Stroke has nothing to do with TQ,, Displacement does..
Torque is leverage, and the peak leverage of a piston against the crankshaft is of course half the stroke. So if you increase the stroke you increase the leverage (torque) at a given wheel speed, increase the displacement, and reduce the rpm at a given piston speed.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bson
Torque is leverage, and the peak leverage of a piston against the crankshaft is of course half the stroke. So if you increase the stroke you increase the leverage (torque) at a given wheel speed, increase the displacement, and reduce the rpm at a given piston speed.
Actually peak leverage is when the lines, rod to crank pin versus crank center to crank pin is at 90 degrees.. It's not when the crank is at 90 degrees reference the bore. Simple vector analysis.

Increasing displacement always increases torque not matter how you do it, bore or stroke.
 
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Well this thread has official been hijacked. But I now know it is not feasible. So I will be listing related 114 parts for sale in the future.
 
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