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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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Its a money racket quality suffers...greed business is what it is.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
Nobody knows why the nut was marked...but plenty of speculation here.

No, it is not common practice for techs to do shoddy work, but when a guy makes a mistake it will be assumed on the internet forums that all dealership mechs are hacks...

Are there some mechanics who are hacks?

Certainly, just like there are hacks in every trade and profession out there...
The marked nut remains a question, but what is not in question is the loose belt and possible loose axle nut. To me at least, the assumptions made in this post aren't off base.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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One thing I have noticed with young folks is you cant lay into their *** when they screw up, there is no accountability. I had one tell me that "you need to tell me nicely when and if I make a mistake" i said "In the mid/late 80s when I started working, I worked with Vietnam vet types who chewed my azz when I screwed up.it taught me to never do that again... basically these guys are hacks because there is no accountability till they screwup royally. they get paid to do lousy work and nobody says anything. As a customer you at least have to bitch to the service manager
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 02:36 PM
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At least you can fix your problem and you found it in time.

Just before winter I had both tires replaced on my Heritage. The service tech managed to grind off the black powder coat on the edge of each rim down to bare steel with the tire machine. Sure I could give the shop hell, but to what end? This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Super Glidester
One thing I have noticed with young folks is you cant lay into their *** when they screw up, there is no accountability. I had one tell me that "you need to tell me nicely when and if I make a mistake" i said "In the mid/late 80s when I started working, I worked with Vietnam vet types who chewed my azz when I screwed up.it taught me to never do that again... basically these guys are hacks because there is no accountability till they screwup royally. they get paid to do lousy work and nobody says anything. As a customer you at least have to bitch to the service manager
I had a young guy with an attendance problem, then one day he called to say he'd be late because his cat was sick and was on the way to the vet. Said he'd be in by noon. Never showed, never called. Didn't show the next day, and didn't call. When he showed the day after that, I told him to pack up his tools and get out of my shop. He cried and called me an ogre. Said I had no feelings, and that his cat needed him. I laughed my *** off at that one.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 03:11 PM
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You should call the shop and complain to the Service Manager. If you don't it's going to happen to the next guy. Better yet, call them out in person.

I make it a point to get to know the Techs, the Service Writers and the Manager at my dealership. I've even bought a few of them lunch a couple of times when the service exceeded my expectations (which are pretty high). Also the GM. It helps.

I can remember being a mechanic in a local gas station/garage when going to college. We were at least aware of every customer. We knew most of them pretty well. This was the the way the owner of the garage wanted it because it made us do the right thing by each customer. When we screwed up, we had to answer to him AND the customer. One of the other kids in the shop put the wrong oil filter on a car and the owner called up to complain. The owner fired him and sent me out to make it right. He made sure that the customer knew it wasn't me, but I still took a ration of crap from him as I replaced the filter, topped off the oil and cleaned up his garage. He also gave me the cash to refund the cost to the customer. How about that for service.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by martin10
Yeah. I don't know. I'm no pro but I've done a fair amount of my own wrenching. I was sort of curious if this was an acceptable practice. I've always had and used torque wrenches so I had never thought about. One thing for sure. That mark on the nut wasn't there before
When I had my '20 Heritage 114 at the dealer for the (free) 1K service, I happen to walk by the service bay window. I saw the tech using a mallet and hammering on the wrench he was using to tighten the axle nut on my bike. I've learned from first-hand experience and reading posts like yours that anything is acceptable practice when it comes to dealer service technicians. I use the term "service technicians" lightly.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Super Glidester
"Bunch of damned hacks that's what they are..." I've heard that somewhere before... seriously ,one would think the dealership is the best of the best. this just isn't true, at any dealership....
At one point it was true here. The owner of the local dealership went and got the best Indy, best paint guy and other staff. Wasn't long before they all went back to working for themselves. Not because the dealership was bad, but because they all wanted to go back and be there own bosses without dealing with supervising.
If you get to know them, there are usually 1 or 2 top techs, but thye stay busy and you may have to wait, if they don't know you or place is backed up. No they don't do tires, batteries, or wash bikes.
 
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Originally Posted by 702
I had a young guy with an attendance problem, then one day he called to say he'd be late because his cat was sick and was on the way to the vet. Said he'd be in by noon. Never showed, never called. Didn't show the next day, and didn't call. When he showed the day after that, I told him to pack up his tools and get out of my shop. He cried and called me an ogre. Said I had no feelings, and that his cat needed him. I laughed my *** off at that one.
Can't blame a guy for loving *****!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by strych9
I ran automotive dealership service operations for years, and at one time was a pro tech myself. I've seen great techs, and I've seen terrible techs. I've seen tech mistakes that were covered up only to land on the customer later on. When I change the tires on my bikes, the axles are torqued by my own hand with my own tools. No guessing, no assumptions, and no shortcuts.

I understand that not every one of us have the abilities I have. It's in those cases that you build a relationship with a great shop with a great tech, and insist that this great tech handle all of your mechanical needs. Anything else is a gamble.
Spot on. I worked with the GM, my son worked parts and sevice. On the rare occasion I bring anything in, it's understood only 1 person works on it and only 2 even ride it to the back.
It's just like our favorite restaurant, when we walk in they seat us where our favorite waitress is working and the bartender makes my drink when he sees me. Knowledge, courtesy. and tips eliminate poor service.
 

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