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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Durham man
is it a direct fit or did it require shimming?
The newer HD batteries are built to size, no spacers needed.

Sorry, I should have linked this earlier since I had this same conversation 2+ years ago, Lithium-Ion - Harley Davidson Forums (hdforums.com)
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 10:10 AM
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This is a great thread as I would consider a lithium too when my OEM reaches its life span.
 
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IMHO, the biggest advantage of a lithium battery is weight reduction. And unless you are on a lightweight sport bike, and/or racing, I don’t see the advantage,
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
IMHO, the biggest advantage of a lithium battery is weight reduction. And unless you are on a lightweight sport bike, and/or racing, I don’t see the advantage,
That not what I was thinking the last time I had to pick up my ultra.
 
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So I have been through two Antigravity batteries in my softail. Neither one lasted more than five months. This does not mean that all lithium iron batteries are bad. Some things I’ll share. You have a stock bike it may be a decent solution for you.

1) Antigravity shows a high cranking power. But then they have a little tiny disclaimer hidden away. That says don’t use it on a high compression big motor. So in reality the only time you really need really awesome cranking power they say don’t use this battery. It’s only good for a anemic stock engines. I purchased it because whether I called a distributor or them direct, I don’t remember, they recommended that battery and said it be awesome to turn my big motor over. What a joke.

2) The warranty is pretty darn decent and they do try and take care of their clients so that’s a plus. However, they don’t know their own product. I called their warranty department. He told me I was using the wrong battery and that I needed to use the YTX – 20 for my softail. I informed the representative from antigravity that they no longer carry that battery, and that it is discontinued. He was unaware of that, but did confirm it after checking.

3) This second battery they did recommend that was also discontinued also does not have the protection circuit according to him. Upon more research I found out that’s true. However, there is a third battery and ATX – 20 but they did not recommend to me (likely didn’t know about it) that does have the protection circuit, but not the restart feature. It’s almost $400.


I’m now completely done with Antigravity, and will never revisit their products. But that’s my decision. I read reviews on many different lithium batteries and for every positive you found a negative. So my decision was to buy a super cheap one that had the protective circuit and if it only lasts six months, I really don’t care. Whether I spent $400 and hope that one last three years or I spent $90 on one last six months at the end of the day. It’s probably the same amount of use per money. Hopefully they improve and my next experience is even better. We’ll see about this $90 one.



 

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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
IMHO, the biggest advantage of a lithium battery is weight reduction. And unless you are on a lightweight sport bike, and/or racing, I don’t see the advantage,
Yeah, no. You need to read through my thread linked in post #21.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by snake_eyes
Sounds like a battery problem to me though, not a Lithium specific problem.
I'm sure you're right. I know others with the same battery that have had good luck and swear by them.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 07:01 PM
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"IMHO, the biggest advantage of a lithium battery is weight reduction."
Higher cranking power and in the case of the Antigravity brand, RE-START Technology (built-in jump-starting). Advantages I like.

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1) Antigravity shows a high cranking power. But then they have a little tiny disclaimer hidden away. That says don’t use it on a high compression big motor. So in reality the only time you really need really awesome cranking power they say don’t use this battery. It’s only good for a anemic stock engines. I purchased it because whether I called a distributor or them direct, I don’t remember, they recommended that battery and said it be awesome to turn my big motor over. What a joke."

Not my experience, the one in my 10.5:1 cr 113" motor is 4 years old, spins it easily. My friend has the same battery in his 124" 12.0:1 cr FXR, it's a few months older than mine. Lithium Iron batteries need a tender designed for them, and need to be warmed up, by turning the bike on and leaving it sit for a few minutes before cranking it over, especially in colder weather. When not riding, mine is on the tender.


 
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Originally Posted by 702
I'm sure you're right. I know others with the same battery that have had good luck and swear by them.
Yep, I am the one that lead you down the trail of Lithium Doom

4 years! I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised. When this one ***** the bed, I will have a hard time deciding what to get. There are a lot more choices now than there were even 4 years ago.

Glad your trip went off without a hitch, my friend
 
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