Quick Shout out to J&M
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Indianapolis IN.
Guys,
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,517
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From: Vancouver BC
The difference with JM is he CLAIMED to be the engineer that designed his own products. Well I'm an electronics engineer and I do this for a living. I work with other engineers each and every day so I am well versed and quite up to date in this field. Having read John's technical explanations and in querying him myself on some of his claims it is blatantly obvious he is no engineer by any stretch of the imagination. It appears he is reselling offshore product with his name slapped on it. JM foolishly regurgitates to us whatever fanciful spec's the factory in China tells him. This might work for the uninitiated but it doesn't fly with some of the more technically savvy around here. His forte is selling shlock goods, not engineering a quality product.
Last edited by Ride my Seesaw; Jul 27, 2015 at 03:24 PM.
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,323
Likes: 37
From: NJ
Guys,
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
If your serious about audio, quality, your money, the product you get for your money then post less, read more.
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,150
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From: S. FL
I was hoping Gliden would chime in!
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
Last edited by haze324; Jul 27, 2015 at 03:30 PM.
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Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Vancouver BC
I was hoping Gliden would chime in!
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,323
Likes: 37
From: NJ
I was hoping Gliden would chime in!
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
Ride - the J&M amp is 500w amp is an Arc Audio 125.4 rebadged and dsp set/programmed for their speakers. Big difference is BT hand builds/assembles all of their amps. I'm no engineer, so thank you for your post
Pete doesn't realize we bash products not to show support to another company, but to save guys like HIM time and money.
Thank you. No disrespect pete.
I have zero alliances to biketronics or anyone.
But I do enjoy saving people from doing what I did.
I was you, once.
Ok. Twice.
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 474
Likes: 34
From: Minnesota
I have no dog in the race here, A TROLL I am NOT. Ive been on here sense I bought my bike. I have spoke with a few of the different shops on here. I am looking for a GOOD system for my bike, actually some of you have posted on that thread helping me.
My only gripe is that people are bashing JM for actually doing the right thing this time. I can't speak for the past but for a new person here it just appears as a bad forum. It would have come across way better if people would have said "for a crap company, congrats, you are the only person that JM has taken care of".
I do appreciate everything that I am learning here.
Thanks
Pete
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Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,784
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From: Pasadena TX
Guys,
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
I wish I could say like many of you that I have never had any issues with anything that you have ever paid top dollar for. To the OP I commend you for sharing your experience and genuine appreciation for a company that stood behind their product for you. To the rest of you that are bad mouthing JM and proclaiming Biketronics as the best company around, maybe you should look at the other posts about Biketronics and their failed hand controls. Biketronics just like JM offered to replace the items free of charge and sent it out right away. The only difference here is that the OP had an offer to "upgrade" his for an extra $99. I don't have product from either company but am in the process of trying to put together an order from an audio company right now.
The whole point here is that we all have differing opinions on what we like and what we spend out own money on. I don't think its fair to JM to bash him and his product and hold Biketronics to a different standard.
I commend both JM and Biketronics for standing behind their products, neither one of these guys MFG's their own products with their own hands. All they can do is try to source the best MFG and stand behind their own products.
Pete
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From: NJ
Lol Larry...he started it!
I can't help myself when I hear that name.
I should have thrown my money out the window. At least some poor son of a bitch who needed it would have been able to pick it up and use it.
Sorry...I'll stop.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, ....
I can't help myself when I hear that name.
I should have thrown my money out the window. At least some poor son of a bitch who needed it would have been able to pick it up and use it.
Sorry...I'll stop.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, ....