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Old Jul 30, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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It depends what you are running on your front stage, everything has to work together.
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Old Jul 30, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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I'm running Hertz HCX 165's in the fairing and they sound awesome with the 600.4. I had planned to use HCX 690's in the sb lids but switched to the 692's for more lower end and the hassle of getting the 690's to fit the Rushmore lids. Another one chasing that unicorn. SF
You have a 6 db difference between your front and rear speakers, that is fairly substantial. Are you using your gain adjustment to compensate?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by azlou66
You have a 6 db difference between your front and rear speakers, that is fairly substantial. Are you using your gain adjustment to compensate?
I will use the gain adjustments to tune them and also have the fader to fine tune for listening. I made my speaker choices based on recommendations on this forum and a lot of reading. I am a novice to motorcycle audio but learned a lot on this forum.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2016 | 10:28 PM
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Gains are to adjust your HU input with you amp out put, not anything to do really with your speakers. Unless perhaps if you are lowering the gains in attempt to match volumes. Also consider speakers that produce bass (subs for example) will have lower sensitivity.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 12:20 AM
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This may just be my car audio embedded in me but I don't focus on having a balanced system. MY front stage is and always will be my main sound source. All else is filler. Yes it is nice to match the rear, lowers, etc as close as possible but all are filler to the fairing. So IMO let the fairing be the prominent sound source and all others just fill in the gaps and or add more sound. To me balancing as system to have front and rear near equal is chasing a unicorn and counter productive.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Haze, that is my intention, to match volumes using the gain adjustments and the fader adjustment. I picked the Hertz HCX for the fairing for sq and clarity and the 692's for lower end fill for the Hertz. As stated, I am a novice at this so if I have made a huge mistake on my choices let me know. My original choice for 6x9 was Hertz HCX 690's but the issue of fitting them in Rushmore lids and lack of low frequency response pushed me to the 692's.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Springerfan
Haze, that is my intention, to match volumes using the gain adjustments and the fader adjustment. I picked the Hertz HCX for the fairing for sq and clarity and the 692's for lower end fill for the Hertz. As stated, I am a novice at this so if I have made a huge mistake on my choices let me know. My original choice for 6x9 was Hertz HCX 690's but the issue of fitting them in Rushmore lids and lack of low frequency response pushed me to the 692's.
Man I am telling you its a waste of time. Why sacrifice the front stage volume to match the rear? You wont hear the rear as much anyway down the road. Yes they are there and can be heard but not near the level the front stage. As I stated in my last post, dropping down the front stage to balance with the rear is not a wise choice. Limiting one sets potential to accommodate the other is pointless IMO. I would say yes you didn't get the best match. What amp are you running again?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Man I am telling you its a waste of time. Why sacrifice the front stage volume to match the rear? You wont hear the rear as much anyway down the road. Yes they are there and can be heard but not near the level the front stage. As I stated in my last post, dropping down the front stage to balance with the rear is not a wise choice. Limiting one sets potential to accommodate the other is pointless IMO. I would say yes you didn't get the best match. What amp are you running again?
Arc 600.4. I am going to hate losing the Hertz HCX in the fairing but it sounds like I am going to have to replace them with something more compatible. Would you recommend the Arc 602?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Arc 600.4. I am going to hate losing the Hertz HCX in the fairing but it sounds like I am going to have to replace them with something more compatible. Would you recommend the Arc 602?
Me personally no. They are a good speaker but dont like the way they sound as my front stage. Lowers sure. I would get different 6x9 if yoh really feel the rears are that quiet. I can hear my rear at 80 if I fade back to them fine. If I stay no fade the front even still way overpowers the rear. No rear will ever come close to the same as my front stage and I want it that way. You can hear my rear still parked but the front is the main player.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by slyedog
This may just be my car audio embedded in me but I don't focus on having a balanced system. MY front stage is and always will be my main sound source. All else is filler. Yes it is nice to match the rear, lowers, etc as close as possible but all are filler to the fairing. So IMO let the fairing be the prominent sound source and all others just fill in the gaps and or add more sound. To me balancing as system to have front and rear near equal is chasing a unicorn and counter productive.
Slye makes a great point. On a bike the front stage is crucial!! However, "surround" sound can be achieved with the right components. For me it's all about hearing all my speakers going down the highway. But as Slye stated you are ALWAYS going to hear the front stage over the rear.
 
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