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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 09:58 PM
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Default So...I got a $1,200 budget...

After countless post reading and opinions.( I value the amount of knowledge in this forum, amazing..makes me feel dumb sometimes..lol)
..Im not sure I have a game plan of what to go with for speaker/amp upgrade. I know this same question is always asked.. but just can't seem to narrow down whats best set up for me..

I have a 2016 Limited. Upgrading both fairing and tour pack. Prefer to stay at $1,200 or less..

i listen to all genre's, but mostly hard rock/metal...and usually like to crank it up. Heavy metal can sound like muddled crap at higher volumes, so im ideally looking for a setup that can play loud but clear. I have 9 speakers in my jeep...and realize the limitations on a bike, so i have realistic expectations on quality, bass,etc. Just want as much quality sound as one can hope for on a bike...in my budget.

i like the idea of the BT brackets and i do think i want to be able to fade front and back.

i prefer to have lower profile tour pack speakers and was thinking Polk mm1 or similar.

im keeping my stock head unit..just want amp, fairing and tour pack speakers.

Im fairly handy...but with working 6 days a week, simpler install the better.

my original thought...like many posts i have read, was to go Biketronics 4180/7.1 package.. with forum disc about $1,100. Then drop in Polks for $150..
im very open to spending less..lol.. but I just want best quality i can get for my budget.
i do happen to have 2 used BT line levelers i bought last year from classifieds.

But since Im not well versed in audio installation..simpler setup/install is important too.

i know it is very much subjective and everyone has their thoughts... but im hoping to get some best bang for buck setup advice, with my budget of $1,200.

I have seem members offer some setups for $750 budgets..but I have a little more to work with than that.

I value anyones opinions on helping me design a package.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 10:19 PM
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BT Brackets
BT Line Leveler Kit w Breakout harness
Amp wiring kit - power & ground
HD remote wire harness
4 Channel amp 150x4 @ 4
DB Motos for loud and clear heavy metal
Polk MM1 for some balance in TP
Various install accessories to cover the install details. Possibly Dynamat / Second Skin. Backer rod, etc...

Ur budget will determine the amp so crunch some numbers and float that number for doe suggestions. A used ARC Moto would be nice!!! Plenty of budget options as well but the stock amp tray will limit the size.

Very straight forward install and essentially "plug and play."

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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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Thanks T ....
im gonna crunch the numbers

Im also thinking if i even really need the fade function...seems like it may not be important afterall, the more i think about it. I already have 2 line levelers, so i can scratch $270 off..
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:12 PM
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Im also thinking if i even really need the fade function..
You are dealing with something you WANT, so do not use the word NEED. You should already have the fade function with a Limited so I can't think of any good reason to give it up.

You may want move the center of the audio stage based on what type of helmet you are wearing, exhaust system changes, any number of things.

I even sometimes adjust my fader based on what type of music I am listening to (sort of bringing out the Motos in the fairing or bringing out the ADs in my lowers and rear pods to suit changes in music).

It's your bike but if it were me I'd keep the fade control ability.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:53 PM
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I’ve noticed that it seems to be instinct to jerk the pods and put the BT brackets in. While I can see the benefits to that, there are plenty of options for speakers that will fit in the pods. The $270 would benefit you more on better equipment elsewhere. But that’s just my opinion.
 
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While I agree BT brackets are expensive, but a pod mod is a PITA and the brackets make swapping speakers a breeze.
 
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Originally Posted by fmfpj
While I agree BT brackets are expensive, but a pod mod is a PITA and the brackets make swapping speakers a breeze.
Not to mention the added space to hang more amps, crossovers, DSP's, etc.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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Not to mention the added space to hang more amps, crossovers, DSP's, etc.
This is true.
 
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I also notice that when the question comes up around "whether or not I need the breakout harness", the responses are most always regarding the ability to fade. While the ability to fade is certainly a consideration, what I don't see mentioned too often is how the breakout harness eliminates a lot of additional wiring mods. Having just gone through my first install on my 2017 Ultra Limited I am glad I went with the harness for this very reason. I run a detachable tour pak and the breakout harness allowed me to utilize the factory wiring, making the install much simpler. Are there less expensive work-arounds to run your own speaker wires from the amp to the TP or even to cut / splice into the factory harness? You bet there are, and while they're not overly complicated or difficult I appreciated the fact that by using the breakout harness I don't have both extra and unused wiring in the same run nor did I have to build my own quick connects. Also, since the OP already has his own LL, the cost of the harness by itself is about $90 (the breakout kit BT lists on their website includes 2 LL). Food for thought anyway.
 

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Originally Posted by Rufnek100
I also notice that when the question comes up around "whether or not I need the breakout harness", the responses are most always regarding the ability to fade. While the ability to fade is certainly a consideration, what I don't see mentioned too often is how the breakout harness eliminates a lot of additional wiring mods. Having just gone through my first install on my 2017 Ultra Limited I am glad I went with the harness for this very reason. I run a detachable tour pak and the breakout harness allowed me to utilize the factory wiring, making the install much simpler. Are there less expensive work-arounds to run your own speaker wires from the amp to the TP or even to cut / splice into the factory harness? You bet there are, and while they're not overly complicated or difficult I appreciated the fact that by using the breakout harness I don't have both extra and unused wiring in the same run nor did I have to build my own quick connects. Also, since the OP already has his own LL, the cost of the harness by itself is about $90 (the breakout kit BT lists on their website includes 2 LL). Food for thought anyway.


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