Help with Audio recommendations
Help with Audio recommendations
Wanting to do an audio upgrade and do front fairing and lid speakers.
i tried searching on Street Glide Nation but everything is a dick measuring contest.
id prefer to stay away from the "plug and play" systems like sinister or Rockford and do just a good put together system.
for the lids I would prefer more low to mid tone as I like deep sound a lot even if I can't hear it at highway speeds with a 6x9's or 8" and horns. Whatever would sound best
slight audio knowledge. Just not sure about correct ohms and amp settings to use. I have a 19 SGS with stock head unit. Not 100% against changing the head unit but if there is a good recommended setup with a line leveler or something that would be ideal.
would like to keep it ~1500 to ~2500 $ range
i tried searching on Street Glide Nation but everything is a dick measuring contest.
id prefer to stay away from the "plug and play" systems like sinister or Rockford and do just a good put together system.
for the lids I would prefer more low to mid tone as I like deep sound a lot even if I can't hear it at highway speeds with a 6x9's or 8" and horns. Whatever would sound best
slight audio knowledge. Just not sure about correct ohms and amp settings to use. I have a 19 SGS with stock head unit. Not 100% against changing the head unit but if there is a good recommended setup with a line leveler or something that would be ideal.
would like to keep it ~1500 to ~2500 $ range
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First thing you will need is a bt355 line leveler to tame the drastic eq curve from the boom hu. You will need a good amp and speakers. Since you are wanting to add lids then a good 4channel amp is a must spx 700x4, mmats 4110, SD 800x4s are all good amps for a 4 speaker setup. As far as speakers go, if you are staying with traditional coax then the mmats cx are as good is it gets for the $$. Speaker technology is changing so fast that just about every month there is some new 6.5 speaker out there. Also speakers are a personal choice as what you like to hear, I might throw up at and vise/versa. My suggestion is go to any audio outing and get your ears on some setups to help you decide. The same goes with lids and 6x9's verses 8".
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With your budget, I'd ditch the line leveler and go DSP and keep you stock HU. Regardless of 6x9 or 8's you will need some serious power to push them. If you want to run a single amp, I'd look at the Focal Sport, BT 4250 or a ARC Moto 720, not yet release, basing that suggestion on the 600.4, it should be a solid high powered amp and a DSP will let you tame any of them. If your willing to run 2 amps there are a bunch of options.
For the front stage the MMats 601.cx's are a popular choice, efficient, clear and loud for about $200. I replaced JL's costing about 3x that with the MMats myself. I'd plan on some BT speaker brackets up front.
The chase for bass is challenging. Gypsy's advice regarding getting your ears on some stuff is good advice.I think 8's will give you more pronounced lows / mids than 6x9s, but will cost quite a bit in bag space. PRV's and Ground Zero are some popular 8"s. Interesting offering from AHB on some Match Razor woofers, but don't know anyone who has had ears on them. If you need lids for 6x9's I've been very happy with the paint work from the factory match. I'll soon be on my 4th set of rear speakers started with JL7.7's, then RF 6x9's included with their lid kit. Currently running the Arc Moto 692's with GZ 7x10's on order, hoping to install this weekend. The MMats 6x9's are also a popular choice these days. DD VO's had some fans I've seen some positive posts on the Diamond Audio 6x9 subs, but haven't had ears on them.
Stick with 4 ohm stuff in all the holes, IMHO.
Don't get in a big hurry, ideally buy once and be done, but there is a constant stream of new products, so it's tough to stay out of the hunt for more of something. Good luck on your project.
Enjoy the ride...
For the front stage the MMats 601.cx's are a popular choice, efficient, clear and loud for about $200. I replaced JL's costing about 3x that with the MMats myself. I'd plan on some BT speaker brackets up front.
The chase for bass is challenging. Gypsy's advice regarding getting your ears on some stuff is good advice.I think 8's will give you more pronounced lows / mids than 6x9s, but will cost quite a bit in bag space. PRV's and Ground Zero are some popular 8"s. Interesting offering from AHB on some Match Razor woofers, but don't know anyone who has had ears on them. If you need lids for 6x9's I've been very happy with the paint work from the factory match. I'll soon be on my 4th set of rear speakers started with JL7.7's, then RF 6x9's included with their lid kit. Currently running the Arc Moto 692's with GZ 7x10's on order, hoping to install this weekend. The MMats 6x9's are also a popular choice these days. DD VO's had some fans I've seen some positive posts on the Diamond Audio 6x9 subs, but haven't had ears on them.
Stick with 4 ohm stuff in all the holes, IMHO.
Don't get in a big hurry, ideally buy once and be done, but there is a constant stream of new products, so it's tough to stay out of the hunt for more of something. Good luck on your project.
Enjoy the ride...
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I will have to disagree with needing a dsp with a 4 channel coax setup. They are full pass speakers and need no band passing. If you go with pa style setup with tweet/horns in the corners along with mid ranges then yes a dsp will be needed. Not a big fan of the 4250 or arc amps either. Just my opinion though and it aint worth much. I do want to get my ears on those 7x10 GZ though. If they sound as good as others have stated, then that just may be the way to go. NoU I am patiently waiting your review.
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I will have to disagree with needing a dsp with a 4 channel coax setup. They are full pass speakers and need no band passing. If you go with pa style setup with tweet/horns in the corners along with mid ranges then yes a dsp will be needed. Not a big fan of the 4250 or arc amps either. Just my opinion though and it aint worth much. I do want to get my ears on those 7x10 GZ though. If they sound as good as others have stated, then that just may be the way to go. NoU I am patiently waiting your review.
I got my 4250 for $480 off a Forum bro and it does have a forever warranty and that counts for something, although I'm not sure what.
I'm confident my opinion is worth less than yours, as much of it comes from reading the opinions of others on the Forum rather than ears on experience, plus my hearing is the shixs -many rock concerts, years of wearing a walkie talkie earpiece , and quite a few miles with VH Big Radius pipes no baffles on a S&S 111 Ironhorse chopper. How do you feel about BT speaker brackets? Maybe we have some common ground, beyond get your ears on some stuff.
Got an email on 8/15 stating that my GZs should arrive between 8/12 and 8/15 and that the package was last scanned in Lichfield, Staffordshire on 8/15 - not sure where that is, but I know its not near my house! Hopefully, I'll have the GZs before Sound Warz in STL at the EOM. Otherwise I've still got the ARC 692's I got from you...I'll post up, when they show up.
Wondering if the OP will post up ever again, see he has just 1 post?
See you in STL
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I have the brackets as I change speakers every "once in a while". lol. I will tell you that there is an advantage to having the brackets just for changing out speakers but there is also an advantage having some speakers in the pods. Sound dynamics being what they are, the pods can produce a better SQ than speakers on the brackets. Yes I had a focal sport that I sold as I just couldn't contain the beast with most coax speakers. that amp is a beast on power but very precise and just not warm like a JL or stinger. You are right that the 4250 needs a dsp and if I had a dsp with the focal, I might still have it, stressing might. Not a big fan of Arc amps as they are sloppy with the functions and weak connections. Just a matter of time until something fails under the fairing with all the vibrations on a bike. I am hoping you get those GZ's as I want to hear them before I try a set.
To the OP,
To the OP,
Well after a lot of research and debate I'm going with 2 MMats pa601cx in the fairing, MMats pa690cx in the lids powered by RF tm400x4ad amp. Then 1 10inch SM10S4 sub powered by RF tm400x2ad with two line levelers and stock head unit. Then when the Sony 7000 is available I'll get that. $1,700 in total from Eric Miller.
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Road Warrior
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Well after a lot of research and debate I'm going with 2 MMats pa601cx in the fairing, MMats pa690cx in the lids powered by RF tm400x4ad amp. Then 1 10inch SM10S4 sub powered by RF tm400x2ad with two line levelers and stock head unit. Then when the Sony 7000 is available I'll get that. $1,700 in total from Eric Miller.
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Thanks for your input! The sub is an MMats as well. And I'm doing the install myself but that price includes color matched lids, sub setup in the bag, all the wiring, bag quick disconnect, 2 line levelers and RCA's all shipped.
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I would rethink the sub in the bag unless you seal it. You are going to have 6x9's in the lids and they will compete for air space with the sub. All subs need to be in a sealed/ ported enclosure or they will not last long. A 10" midbass will work or a pair (1 in each bag) will provide the lows you are looking for. Keep in mind that you will loose all that low end while riding at any speed above 40-50. Just the nature of low frequencies. Put the mmats in the fairing and the 6x9's in the lids and try that before you add any more.
Also those RF amps are good but as No U stated, the stinger has better SQ and gets louder than the tm400 for the same price if not cheaper. I have a tm400 sitting on the shelf as I am running the stinger for my 4 speakers and a mmats 4110 bridged running the 10's I have in my bags.
Also those RF amps are good but as No U stated, the stinger has better SQ and gets louder than the tm400 for the same price if not cheaper. I have a tm400 sitting on the shelf as I am running the stinger for my 4 speakers and a mmats 4110 bridged running the 10's I have in my bags.