Odd wiring
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Road Master
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Odd wiring
Hello gents,
Looking at a potential bike purchase. Looks like they used Hertz Mille all around from what I can tell...lowers, fairing and bags. Rockford HU. Paired my phone to have a listen...sounded good, but definitely "surround sound" sounding. I went to the balance and went all the way L and noticed it actually went to the left side of the bike and vise versa. So whoever wired this did the fairing/lids in parallel to 2ohms on L/R side...which I found odd, as I would think that they would wire the fairing together and the lids together.
Anyway, the reason I noticed this is because when I moved the balance all the way to one side, to my ears, it sound richer and bass was deeper. When I put the balance back to center, it good louder but definitely not richer or "thumpier" if makes sense.
Is this an odd way to wire the system?
Looking at a potential bike purchase. Looks like they used Hertz Mille all around from what I can tell...lowers, fairing and bags. Rockford HU. Paired my phone to have a listen...sounded good, but definitely "surround sound" sounding. I went to the balance and went all the way L and noticed it actually went to the left side of the bike and vise versa. So whoever wired this did the fairing/lids in parallel to 2ohms on L/R side...which I found odd, as I would think that they would wire the fairing together and the lids together.
Anyway, the reason I noticed this is because when I moved the balance all the way to one side, to my ears, it sound richer and bass was deeper. When I put the balance back to center, it good louder but definitely not richer or "thumpier" if makes sense.
Is this an odd way to wire the system?
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Hello gents,
Looking at a potential bike purchase. Looks like they used Hertz Mille all around from what I can tell...lowers, fairing and bags. Rockford HU. Paired my phone to have a listen...sounded good, but definitely "surround sound" sounding. I went to the balance and went all the way L and noticed it actually went to the left side of the bike and vise versa. So whoever wired this did the fairing/lids in parallel to 2ohms on L/R side...which I found odd, as I would think that they would wire the fairing together and the lids together.
Anyway, the reason I noticed this is because when I moved the balance all the way to one side, to my ears, it sound richer and bass was deeper. When I put the balance back to center, it good louder but definitely not richer or "thumpier" if makes sense.
Is this an odd way to wire the system?
Looking at a potential bike purchase. Looks like they used Hertz Mille all around from what I can tell...lowers, fairing and bags. Rockford HU. Paired my phone to have a listen...sounded good, but definitely "surround sound" sounding. I went to the balance and went all the way L and noticed it actually went to the left side of the bike and vise versa. So whoever wired this did the fairing/lids in parallel to 2ohms on L/R side...which I found odd, as I would think that they would wire the fairing together and the lids together.
Anyway, the reason I noticed this is because when I moved the balance all the way to one side, to my ears, it sound richer and bass was deeper. When I put the balance back to center, it good louder but definitely not richer or "thumpier" if makes sense.
Is this an odd way to wire the system?
As for the "RICH/THUMPY" sound there are speakers that are more than likely out of phase.
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1 speaker out of phase will do more than most know
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But, in Balancing full Left/Right WILL eliminate the cancellation that @Babyboy mentioned due to an 'out of phase' scenario.
Out of phase is most commonly found when someone accidentally flips the Positive(+) & Negative(-) wires on a speaker, while the other speaker in the pair is connected properly.
It effectively makes the Speaker cones move in opposite directions simultaneously - and will cancel-out some audio.
By you sliding Balance to full Left/Right - you're removing the (potential) cancellation from the pair.
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Road Master
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Sliding the Balance to full Left/Right doesn't creates a Mono...it just isolates a specific Channel(s).
But, in Balancing full Left/Right WILL eliminate the cancellation that @Babyboy mentioned due to an 'out of phase' scenario.
Out of phase is most commonly found when someone accidentally flips the Positive(+) & Negative(-) wires on a speaker, while the other speaker in the pair is connected properly.
It effectively makes the Speaker cones move in opposite directions simultaneously - and will cancel-out some audio.
By you sliding Balance to full Left/Right - you're removing the (potential) cancellation from the pair.
But, in Balancing full Left/Right WILL eliminate the cancellation that @Babyboy mentioned due to an 'out of phase' scenario.
Out of phase is most commonly found when someone accidentally flips the Positive(+) & Negative(-) wires on a speaker, while the other speaker in the pair is connected properly.
It effectively makes the Speaker cones move in opposite directions simultaneously - and will cancel-out some audio.
By you sliding Balance to full Left/Right - you're removing the (potential) cancellation from the pair.
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Mono means no stereo separation from left to right. The left 2 speakers are receiving the same signal. You have no fade control when wired that way. They are in essence locked in phase together. They should receive the left speaker signal from the stereo sound. Hence the right 2 speakers are in phase with each other, and receiving the right speaker signal from the stereo sound. If the right side is wired out of phase, cancellation will occur.
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Mono means no stereo separation from left to right. The left 2 speakers are receiving the same signal. You have no fade control when wired that way. They are in essence locked in phase together. They should receive the left speaker signal from the stereo sound. Hence the right 2 speakers are in phase with each other, and receiving the right speaker signal from the stereo sound. If the right side is wired out of phase, cancellation will occur.
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Well if it takes as long to pick out a bike as it does to pick out audio equipment, the bike will probably be sold a couple time by then LOL!