Speaker Phase issue.
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Speaker Phase issue.
Just read a response by Ultranutz about the biketronics speakers and the thinner connector is positive. I am pretty sure for some reason i thought that was reversed and am 95 percent sure I wired the large connector as positive. And I am getting distortion. More then I expected at least with the pbr300x2 and the Titans.
My thought is to simply cut and swap the speaker wires at the butt connectors. I really want to avoid having to take off the pods again. Is there a way to verify the phase without a visual inspection of the speakers.
My thought is to simply cut and swap the speaker wires at the butt connectors. I really want to avoid having to take off the pods again. Is there a way to verify the phase without a visual inspection of the speakers.
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I think this'll work. AA or AAA battery positive to positive and touch negative to negative. If speaker moves out you're good if it moves in they need to be swapped. Hopefully someone will be along in a minute with a lot more knowledge. Paging. UN GP or Pioneer
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If both of your speakers are out of phase with the plus-minus cables, they are actually in-phase with each other, so I'm pretty sure you are over driving the input to the amp to cause the distortion. Both speakers are pushing and pulling together, as opposed to one of them working in the opposite direction (out of phase). Am I wrong here?
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Touch small terminal with small tip (+) of 9v battery. touch the larger terminal with the larger tip (-) of 9v battery. the speaker will pop outwards indicating proper phase.
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Just read a response by Ultranutz about the biketronics speakers and the thinner connector is positive. I am pretty sure for some reason i thought that was reversed and am 95 percent sure I wired the large connector as positive. And I am getting distortion. More then I expected at least with the pbr300x2 and the Titans.
My thought is to simply cut and swap the speaker wires at the butt connectors. I really want to avoid having to take off the pods again. Is there a way to verify the phase without a visual inspection of the speakers.
My thought is to simply cut and swap the speaker wires at the butt connectors. I really want to avoid having to take off the pods again. Is there a way to verify the phase without a visual inspection of the speakers.
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Thanks guys. I will pull the fairing and check it. Am I right that even if both are out of phase this could be the cause of my distortion problem. If not what else can be causing the distortion. Volume is great but at less then halfway I am getting lots of distortion. Lowered treble and base on HU and It helped but sound is not great.
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Thanks guys. I will pull the fairing and check it. Am I right that even if both are out of phase this could be the cause of my distortion problem. If not what else can be causing the distortion. Volume is great but at less then halfway I am getting lots of distortion. Lowered treble and base on HU and It helped but sound is not great.
That type of "being out of phase" is a little bit different than if you had 2 front speakers and mistakenly connected 1 of them backwards while the other was correctly wired which is also considered out of phase. In this case not only are you losing bass response but now your audio is no longer considered to be in stereo but 2 separate channels now.
So aside from all my BS above, the bottom line is simply this; Speakers are designed to be wired in a certain configuration which is observing proper polarity. Any other type of configuration will no doubt lead to a pretty bad sounding system.
Also please tell us exactly what you have for a bike and exactly what you have for audio equipment.
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OK, just spoke with my sound engineer friend that works at Dolby Labs. If the polarity of both speakers are reversed, it will not affect the sound. Its only when ONE speaker is wired out of phase to the other that you will have phase cancellation issues. Now, that is not saying that the voice coil on one speaker Could be mis-wired. The easiest way to check is with the battery test to visually view how the cone is moving in relation to the polarity applied. If you are still getting distortion, you probably have other issues, such as a bad output stage component.
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I am running a 2014 SGS. I installed the RF 300x2 amp with the Biketronic speakers. Have 4ga power and ground running to RF distribution blocks in fairing. And 10ga power and ground to amp. All fused