TC96 project
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TC96 project
Here’s a challenge for anyone who knows HD fuel injection.
I have a 2010 TC96 from a road glide, a new stock Harley ECM, a factory wiring harness for a road king, a TSM from a touring model. It’s all assembled on a rigid frame.
I have power to lights, turn signals, brake, horn, starter, and headlight. The fuel pump fuse is not getting power and the bike will crank but not start.
I took it to the dealership in the hope that they could flash this new ECM and get something to happen. They tried, and said they could do nothing unless it starts.
Any suggestions on what the next step should be?
Any suggestion why it won’t even start and stall?
I have a 2010 TC96 from a road glide, a new stock Harley ECM, a factory wiring harness for a road king, a TSM from a touring model. It’s all assembled on a rigid frame.
I have power to lights, turn signals, brake, horn, starter, and headlight. The fuel pump fuse is not getting power and the bike will crank but not start.
I took it to the dealership in the hope that they could flash this new ECM and get something to happen. They tried, and said they could do nothing unless it starts.
Any suggestions on what the next step should be?
Any suggestion why it won’t even start and stall?
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Tourer
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From: Midland Tx.
thanks for that, it's better than being totally ignored!
I'm considering admiting defeat and dumping the EFI and getting the AMM-P3 ignition and running a carb; probably I'd be happier with the carb anyway. I just wanted to be able to make it work!
I'm considering admiting defeat and dumping the EFI and getting the AMM-P3 ignition and running a carb; probably I'd be happier with the carb anyway. I just wanted to be able to make it work!
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Here’s a challenge for anyone who knows HD fuel injection.
I have a 2010 TC96 from a road glide, a new stock Harley ECM, a factory wiring harness for a road king, a TSM from a touring model. It’s all assembled on a rigid frame.
I have power to lights, turn signals, brake, horn, starter, and headlight. The fuel pump fuse is not getting power and the bike will crank but not start.
I took it to the dealership in the hope that they could flash this new ECM and get something to happen. They tried, and said they could do nothing unless it starts.
Any suggestions on what the next step should be?
Any suggestion why it won’t even start and stall?
I have a 2010 TC96 from a road glide, a new stock Harley ECM, a factory wiring harness for a road king, a TSM from a touring model. It’s all assembled on a rigid frame.
I have power to lights, turn signals, brake, horn, starter, and headlight. The fuel pump fuse is not getting power and the bike will crank but not start.
I took it to the dealership in the hope that they could flash this new ECM and get something to happen. They tried, and said they could do nothing unless it starts.
Any suggestions on what the next step should be?
Any suggestion why it won’t even start and stall?
i would call some other dealers or better yet see if you can find a Harley tech who has programmed new ECM's. He or she won't have access to the computer system that they use outside of their job but he or she will be able to tell you how it works and if I am correct about the initial program.
Why do I know this you may ask? I had the pleasure of watching them program my new ECM and they made no attempt to start the bike until the VIN number, the model number and some other info was put into the ECM..
If they have a policy of not programming custom bikes then I would demand a refund for the new ECM. If you still want fuel injection after returning the new ECM, you may want to talk to the folks at Zippers about a Thunderheart fuel injection system.
Good luck.
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I believe your dealer is incorrect. That ECM is not going to work until it is programmed. The dealer has to put the VIN for the bike as well as the model along with some other information. I know this because I recently had a faulty ECM replaced and they didn't start the bike until the initial programming was done. Until the initial programming is complete, the fuel pump will not have power and I assume that the same holds true for the ignition. The programming is completed after the bike is started but the bike will not start until the initial programming is completed.
i would call some other dealers or better yet see if you can find a Harley tech who has programmed new ECM's. He or she won't have access to the computer system that they use outside of their job but he or she will be able to tell you how it works and if I am correct about the initial program.
Why do I know this you may ask? I had the pleasure of watching them program my new ECM and they made no attempt to start the bike until the VIN number, the model number and some other info was put into the ECM..
If they have a policy of not programming custom bikes then I would demand a refund for the new ECM. If you still want fuel injection after returning the new ECM, you may want to talk to the folks at Zippers about a Thunderheart fuel injection system.
Good luck.
i would call some other dealers or better yet see if you can find a Harley tech who has programmed new ECM's. He or she won't have access to the computer system that they use outside of their job but he or she will be able to tell you how it works and if I am correct about the initial program.
Why do I know this you may ask? I had the pleasure of watching them program my new ECM and they made no attempt to start the bike until the VIN number, the model number and some other info was put into the ECM..
If they have a policy of not programming custom bikes then I would demand a refund for the new ECM. If you still want fuel injection after returning the new ECM, you may want to talk to the folks at Zippers about a Thunderheart fuel injection system.
Good luck.
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she runs
She's a running machine now! I got a 2007 night train tank and speedo, then I got a used ecm and hfsm from an 2010 ultra, hooked it all up and she's running!
Here's what it is:
2010 tc96
ultima 200 frame for evo motor- 4" up in front legs
custom rear mount for twin cam
ultima 6 speed transmission
ultima belt drive for evo
custom marrage plate for primary to motor
custom ground pully mounting plate- cut to fit twin cam spline
twin cam softail oil tank
fabricated oil lines
ultima springer fork- 6" over
2007 night train tank
2010 ecm & tsm/hfsm
Here's what it is:
2010 tc96
ultima 200 frame for evo motor- 4" up in front legs
custom rear mount for twin cam
ultima 6 speed transmission
ultima belt drive for evo
custom marrage plate for primary to motor
custom ground pully mounting plate- cut to fit twin cam spline
twin cam softail oil tank
fabricated oil lines
ultima springer fork- 6" over
2007 night train tank
2010 ecm & tsm/hfsm
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Sweet looking ride
When I first started reading over the collection of parts the name "Frankenstein" popped into my head Lol Watch out for pot holes!
When I first started reading over the collection of parts the name "Frankenstein" popped into my head Lol Watch out for pot holes!
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Tourer
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that's what I was thinking also while I was running all the wires; they're like scars on the surface. Interesting that somebody else thought the same thing. "Frankenstein chopper"
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She's a running machine now! I got a 2007 night train tank and speedo, then I got a used ecm and hfsm from an 2010 ultra, hooked it all up and she's running!
Here's what it is:
2010 tc96
ultima 200 frame for evo motor- 4" up in front legs
custom rear mount for twin cam
ultima 6 speed transmission
ultima belt drive for evo
custom marrage plate for primary to motor
custom ground pully mounting plate- cut to fit twin cam spline
twin cam softail oil tank
fabricated oil lines
ultima springer fork- 6" over
2007 night train tank
2010 ecm & tsm/hfsm
Here's what it is:
2010 tc96
ultima 200 frame for evo motor- 4" up in front legs
custom rear mount for twin cam
ultima 6 speed transmission
ultima belt drive for evo
custom marrage plate for primary to motor
custom ground pully mounting plate- cut to fit twin cam spline
twin cam softail oil tank
fabricated oil lines
ultima springer fork- 6" over
2007 night train tank
2010 ecm & tsm/hfsm
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From: Midland Tx.