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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 09:06 PM
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Finishing out black paint is not easy. It may seem easy, but its not. When its put next to paint thats finished to perfection, then the difference can be seen.
What I am getting at is that, there is a lot more to it then just running a machine over it. Everyone's interpretation of "Gloss", Perfection" is different, and as long as the owner is happy thats all that matters. However, for people reading this looking for information, there is a big big difference in just running a machine over it, and knowing how to work a polish properly to achieve a finish that is "3' foot deep". Knowing what polish to use, knowing what pad to use, technique, all combined to achieve the desired finish. Not knocking your work or effort at all.

When @CaffineBuzz was venturing in to this, there was a lot of discussion between us about all of the things involved to do the job to get what he wanted. Not just BSing here. Just the truth.
I am glad you got out of it what you wanted. Hope you enjoy many miles
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 09:10 PM
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Just remember if you do go to attempt to take out 100% of the swirls.... your clear coat is only so thick, and polishing removes clear coat as you’re cutting down to swirl free clear.

I would say it looks great at what you’ve done so far! And now you just need to avoid getting swirls in the first place! Which I’m sure you’ll be much more careful of now.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefan1
Finishing out black paint is not easy. It may seem easy, but its not. When its put next to paint thats finished to perfection, then the difference can be seen.
What I am getting at is that, there is a lot more to it then just running a machine over it. Everyone's interpretation of "Gloss", Perfection" is different, and as long as the owner is happy thats all that matters. However, for people reading this looking for information, there is a big big difference in just running a machine over it, and knowing how to work a polish properly to achieve a finish that is "3' foot deep". Knowing what polish to use, knowing what pad to use, technique, all combined to achieve the desired finish. Not knocking your work or effort at all.

When @CaffineBuzz was venturing in to this, there was a lot of discussion between us about all of the things involved to do the job to get what he wanted. Not just BSing here. Just the truth.
I am glad you got out of it what you wanted. Hope you enjoy many miles
Oh I know. It's a pain. Especially with varying paint between vehicles. I totally understand there is lot more to it than what I did. I did absolute minimum to what I wanted accomplish, which was to remove the swirls. They are gone now. If I decide to embark on a multi hour event to make it look "3 foot deep", then I will go with that. I am sure it's doable. For now, this is good enough. Of course it will not look the same as a completely finished vehicle. I know there is lot to it. I worked in this environment very long time ago. Although, it was with building show cars, but there was a lot of paintwork and detailing involved. I totally get the effort it takes, hence, why I elect not to spend my time on it as much and outsource it somewhere.

But yeah, to those reading this thread, please don't think that my couple passed with Porter Cable is all what it takes.. lol

 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 2500hdon37s
Just remember if you do go to attempt to take out 100% of the swirls.... your clear coat is only so thick, and polishing removes clear coat as you’re cutting down to swirl free clear.

I would say it looks great at what you’ve done so far! And now you just need to avoid getting swirls in the first place! Which I’m sure you’ll be much more careful of now.
I am glad you brought that up because I will have to change what I am doing. I do use two buckets with grit inserts and a microfiber mitt. I use leaf blower to dry the bike off. I think my swirls came from using cheap microfiber towels and quick detailer. I wasn't as careful as I should be, so it's my doing. Sometimes I think I "pushed the envelope" a little with amount of "dust" I was taking off with them.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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Those quick detailers have caused a lot of issues for guys on here. I just use a waterless wash, a lot friendlier to the paint.

 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 10:42 AM
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100% @eaglefan1 I am done using them. Now that you guys introduced me to ECH02, I am all in for WW.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefan1
Those quick detailers have caused a lot of issues for guys on here. I just use a waterless wash, a lot friendlier to the paint.
my guess is it was made worse by the fact that many probably use QD's as a waterless wash :P

any respectable biker knows, Lemon Pledge is for waterless washing....QD's are for that extra sparkle between layers of Lemon Pledge :P

 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 08:42 PM
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Lemon pledge, cure all. Best looking thing you can do to paint.
Might as 2 bucket wash the furniture. Or put can coat on your dresser!
 
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I use Meguires ultimate compound and then ultimate polish and then glaze #7.Ive been able to get swirls and finger nail scratches under the buckles on the tour pak and saddle bags.Anything more than that I can live with. I use a drill and I thick foam pad and use the edge. I’m sure a pro could do better but I’m happy with it.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2022 | 07:36 AM
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Be real careful edging that pad.
Why the glaze? are you not getting rid of the defects? Are you using 7 for your LSP?
 
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