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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LunaticFringe
rubbish


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you can doubt it all you want. 10 minutes is too long, lol. you just run A wire to the rear brake light switch. no tools needed. what is all this extra stuff you are throwing in? right here man: http://www.jagg.com/pdf/instructions...ons-022514.pdf. i've done it already. i'm not just talking out of my @**. i complicated my install on purpose. i took it farther that it needed to go. it's all in my signature.

where are you getting your info?

Amazon.com: Jagg Oil Coolers Horizontal Low-Mount 10 Row Fan-Assisted Oil Cooler Kit - Black 751-FP2500: Automotive Amazon.com: Jagg Oil Coolers Horizontal Low-Mount 10 Row Fan-Assisted Oil Cooler Kit - Black 751-FP2500: Automotive

better deals can be found on ebay.


i'm not in the convincing business. you do as you please with your bike but, please stop spreading false info. a bystander may not know who is sharing K.T.E. and who is using the PIDOOMA method.




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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 11:58 PM
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well have fun sitting in traffic with your fan, I don't need it cause I don't sit in traffic so I have no need for the fan, I doubt it would ever come on during normal riding which makes it worthless in the first place, and I bet if it did that little POS fan wouldn't last 10,000 miles, it looks like nothing more than a heavy duty electronic cooling fan, I guarantee that thing isn't even rated to operate in 200 degree heat and no way it's water proof, one time through a puddle will probably fry it and then it will be just impeding the flow of air rather than enhancing it, but it probably never turns on in the first place so you wont even know when it's broken, like I said before it's a gimmick (much like mSF courses imo). besides who wants more ugly wires, plastic fans and sensors hanging off their frame, might as well buy a Yamaha.


and on top of all that, I bet you you're bike is still going to get too hot idling in traffic even with the fan running, so what's the point.


but I do agree with you that a cooler in general is a great thing to have installed.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
I think that you're making an assumption that could play out to ... maybe .... the exhaust will be cooler too? Not trying to ruffle your feathers, just that I think you're really stretching things a bit with lowering primary temperatures . :>)


would be an interesting experiment to see how much but I bet that most the heat in the primary is from thermal conduction through the motor case, lets face it the primary chain and clutch itself isn't going to create a whole lot of heat when used normally so therefore I would bet that lowering your motor oil temp 30-40 degrees will certainly keep your stator cooler as well.


stators on all motorcycles might be weak but most motorcycles are water cooled too, so Harleys are more prone to stator failure, the damn things go bad all the time on Harleys and it sucks paying $500 to have that thing fixed.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by misfitJason
Metrics with radiators and fans will overheat if at idle long enough. I've seen it. It's funny

yep, absolutely true, so if that big 6" fan on that big 8"x14" radiator can't even keep a small 750cc motor cool, does anyone really think a little 3" fan on a little 4"x8" oil cooler is going to keep your massive 103 TC motor cool?


I repeat, GIMMICk
 
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LunaticFringe
infantile tirade


...GIMMICk
your credibility now fully shot..
  • fans on metrics, vrod, streets, wetheads, ...etc are all a gimmick, huh?
    i cut my teeth on a honda shadow vt500c, metrics will overheat for the same reasons cars do, that's why misfitJason's statement is probably true
  • add in the stator nonsense,
  • then the $300 tires (who, in their right mind, pays $100 to get 1 tire installed? & 5 hours?),
  • then the pidooma wire hate....



no bueno mi amigo.... no bueno


just stop. say "i don't like the fan idea" and leave it at that. if you dig any deeper, you'll be in china.

 
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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I just got back. What were we talking about again?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cvaria
your credibility now fully shot..
  • fans on metrics, vrod, streets, wetheads, ...etc are all a gimmick, huh?
  • add in the stator nonsense,
  • then the $300 tires (who, in their right mind, pays $100 to get 1 tire installed? & 5 hours?),
  • then the pidooma wire hate....


no bueno mi amigo.... no bueno


just stop. say "i don't like the fan idea" and leave it at that. if you dig any deeper, you'll be in china.


you must not have good reading skills or something because I didn't at all say fans were a gimmick on water cooled bikes, I said they are a gimmick on oil coolers for Harleys. ths point I'm making is if a radiator and big *** fan can even keep a little metric motor cool at idel HTF will a little 3" fan keep a 96 CI engine cool? Gimmick!


And as far as tire, wtf are you talking about, it costs atleast $200 labor to get a rear tire changed any where you go, tire cost is $150 easy, so your into $350 for a rear tire easily, and I don't even understand what point your trying to make anyway. I guess you're one of those tightwads who spends your whole weekend changing your own tires to save a few bucks.


and stators? so you're saying stators never go bad on Harleys huh? Fact is it's one of the most common parts to go bad and it's caused by overheating.
 

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I must be doing something wrong. I've been running Harley's for over 40 years and have yet to fry a stator.
But I have always run an oil cooler with a thermostat or a fan.
Are fans a gimmick? I don't know. I know they work for me!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LunaticFringe

1you must not have good reading skills or something because I didn't at all say fans were a gimmick on water cooled bikes, I said they are a gimmick on oil coolers for Harleys. ths point I'm making is if a radiator and big *** fan can even keep a little metric motor cool at idel HTF will a little 3" fan keep a 96 CI engine cool? Gimmick!


2And as far as tire, wtf are you talking about, it costs atleast $200 labor to get a rear tire changed any where you go, tire cost is $150 easy, so your into $350 for a rear tire easily, and I don't even understand what point your trying to make anyway. I guess you're one of those tightwads who spends your whole weekend changing your own tires to save a few bucks.


3and stators? so you're saying stators never go bad on Harleys huh? Fact is it's one of the most common parts to go bad and it's caused by overheating.

1.: whaa? you didn't type this?
Originally Posted by LunaticFringe
yep, absolutely true, so if that big 6" fan on that big 8"x14" radiator can't even keep a small 750cc motor cool, does anyone really think a little 3" fan on a little 4"x8" oil cooler is going to keep your massive 103 TC motor cool?

I repeat, GIMMICk
what were you talking about there? a 750cc weed wacker with a radiator? c'mon man, own up to your own words



2.: i pay 50 per axle. last change 115 for front tire and $50 install. before that 250 for front and back tires 100 install ... it's all in my sig or in the forums under my name... no pidooma

bikebandit.com and free shipping to your local indy for install... unless you like wasting money then yelling about expensive fans




3.: Relevance?

Originally Posted by Relevance,







i can't stand bulls*** but, i'm just gonna stop before i get banned again.

i don't want any problems, Mr. Jackson
 

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