Another tire question
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Another tire question
Seems like its time for new tires, may need to put brakes on hold after all.
Bike is a 2014 Dyna Street Bob, I don't often ride in the rain given my location. Lots of backroads and some Interstate.
I know that Michelin Commander II's and Pirelli Night Dragons are popular. Any differences between the two that I should be cognizant of?
Also the choices seem to all say TL which I assume means tubeless, but my wheels are spoked and require tubes. Can I not use this tire or is it similar to a bicycle where a TL compatible tire can be used with our without tubes?
Lastly what is normal from an installation balancing standpoint. My Indy said roughly an hour to an hour and a half so about $125 for install. Their prices for tires seem pretty good as well. about $15 higher for the front Commander II but $4 less on the rear than Revzilla. Granted no taxes if I buy online.
Bike is a 2014 Dyna Street Bob, I don't often ride in the rain given my location. Lots of backroads and some Interstate.
I know that Michelin Commander II's and Pirelli Night Dragons are popular. Any differences between the two that I should be cognizant of?
Also the choices seem to all say TL which I assume means tubeless, but my wheels are spoked and require tubes. Can I not use this tire or is it similar to a bicycle where a TL compatible tire can be used with our without tubes?
Lastly what is normal from an installation balancing standpoint. My Indy said roughly an hour to an hour and a half so about $125 for install. Their prices for tires seem pretty good as well. about $15 higher for the front Commander II but $4 less on the rear than Revzilla. Granted no taxes if I buy online.
Seems like its time for new tires, may need to put brakes on hold after all.
Bike is a 2014 Dyna Street Bob, I don't often ride in the rain given my location. Lots of backroads and some Interstate.
I know that Michelin Commander II's and Pirelli Night Dragons are popular. Any differences between the two that I should be cognizant of?
Also the choices seem to all say TL which I assume means tubeless, but my wheels are spoked and require tubes. Can I not use this tire or is it similar to a bicycle where a TL compatible tire can be used with our without tubes?
Lastly what is normal from an installation balancing standpoint. My Indy said roughly an hour to an hour and a half so about $125 for install. Their prices for tires seem pretty good as well. about $15 higher for the front Commander II but $4 less on the rear than Revzilla. Granted no taxes if I buy online.
Bike is a 2014 Dyna Street Bob, I don't often ride in the rain given my location. Lots of backroads and some Interstate.
I know that Michelin Commander II's and Pirelli Night Dragons are popular. Any differences between the two that I should be cognizant of?
Also the choices seem to all say TL which I assume means tubeless, but my wheels are spoked and require tubes. Can I not use this tire or is it similar to a bicycle where a TL compatible tire can be used with our without tubes?
Lastly what is normal from an installation balancing standpoint. My Indy said roughly an hour to an hour and a half so about $125 for install. Their prices for tires seem pretty good as well. about $15 higher for the front Commander II but $4 less on the rear than Revzilla. Granted no taxes if I buy online.
they will ship to your indy and you can just drag your wheels over (good practice for your brake job). that should save you about half of what they are asking... unless they are scumbags. that should free up some scratch for a rear rotor and new rotor bolts.
tire sizes: http://www.hdwheels.com/product.htm
if you are throwing on new tire, this is a great time to do brakes... at least upgrade your rear rotor.
not sure how you feel about ebay and take-offs but:
http://stores.ebay.com/BAD-***-CYCLE..._sid=193999472
ebc rear rotors will sting a bit but, worth it
https://www.denniskirk.com/ebc/brake...-fxdb.mmy/1.pg
tubes/tubeless v spokes: i'm running a tube in my tubeless night dragon rear. ran tubes in my scorcher IIs (tubeless tires).
Last edited by cvaria; May 26, 2016 at 06:33 PM.
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You will be so much happier with the Night Dragons; I'll never use anything but those Pirelli beastie tires. I've got a local metric shop changing out my tires for $25 per tire; I take in the wheel and the new tire, they don't spin balance, I use Ride On for balancing/sealing. I don't trust anyone but myself for rear tire alignment and belt deflection. I'm running tubed tires and won't ever run anything but the Pirelli Night Dragons on this Wide Glide... give them a shot, you just might love them 
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Good call on removing the wheels myself and doing the brakes at the same time along with saving money on the install. I'll check into tire prices from other spots but generally I'm pretty keen on using my indy for some stuff to keep them in business and normal markups.
So next questions:
1. Should I change the size of my tires or stick with stock sizes front is 100/90 R19, Rear is 160/70 R17. I'm not keen on changing spacers or wheels or anything at this time so not even sure I I could change sizes but thought I should ask
2. Think I should replace the stock rotor at the same time as the pads and lines? Are there any issues with the rear rotor, it only has about 10k miles on it.
So next questions:
1. Should I change the size of my tires or stick with stock sizes front is 100/90 R19, Rear is 160/70 R17. I'm not keen on changing spacers or wheels or anything at this time so not even sure I I could change sizes but thought I should ask
2. Think I should replace the stock rotor at the same time as the pads and lines? Are there any issues with the rear rotor, it only has about 10k miles on it.
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Not a problem at all putting tubes in them tubeless tires... Like Tin Cup, I have the Night Dragons with tubes in them
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if you have a cycle gear near by, they mount a tire for 20 bucks. had a commander 2 put on last year, like it ok. if you want to save a few more bucks, tires are not that hard to change if you have a few tools. have done many over the years, just getting lazier as I get older.