Ok, now I'm pissed -battery/starting issues continue
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From: Doghouse... mostly
Have the Dealer double check to see if the ACR's are actually activated in the ECU. If you know what to listen for, you can hear them "click" open when you turn the ignition on.
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check your cables. I had a hard starting and charging issue with my bike. I decided to replace the negative battery cable since it only cost $9. I took the old one off and cut the rubber sleeve off of it.......it was corroded and green from end to end. Corrosion was causing resistance, which was causing heat, and causing engine codes to be registered.
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From: SWFL
Not applicable for the S model. That issue was due to weak welds on the ignition switch bracket, causing it to rattle and potentially flip the switch. The S has no ignition switch. Run/Stop and Start button only. But thanks anyway.
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May be far fetched but doesn't seem like you have it solved yet so ... wth
I had a VIN error and it had to do with the ECM and Speedo VINs not matching. Is it possible that the speedo is causing the issue? Maybe loose cable like others have suggested or maybe the temperature inside is causing moisture to build up and short something out? Is the speedo fogging up?
I had a VIN error and it had to do with the ECM and Speedo VINs not matching. Is it possible that the speedo is causing the issue? Maybe loose cable like others have suggested or maybe the temperature inside is causing moisture to build up and short something out? Is the speedo fogging up?
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Not a whole lot to the system: Battery cables, starter cables, ground cables, solenoid, starter switch, starter motor & clutch, ACRs.
FWIW, wife's FXDC with 96 engine which has no ACRs did the same thing. Vinerr, dim lights etc but the battery was 6 months old and sits on a tender. Starter was bad. It just sucked juice and barely turned. So I put a bigger one in and it's been amazing ever since.
FWIW, wife's FXDC with 96 engine which has no ACRs did the same thing. Vinerr, dim lights etc but the battery was 6 months old and sits on a tender. Starter was bad. It just sucked juice and barely turned. So I put a bigger one in and it's been amazing ever since.
How many miles on bike? Check starter connector and if you have 10k+ or rode in some nasty stuff you may want to check the gears and starter for grim buildup. Had this on my R1150gsa and after cleaning the starter from a partial disassembly it was perfectly fine.
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Its odd that its only happening when hot. I just started it an hour ago (an hour or two after this mornings problem and it fired up perfectly. And remember, when I brought up the HD battery the other day my charger said it was fully charged. I don't think its a charging system issue. But again, I'll check the voltage.
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Check ground cable, it's probably loose.
Personally, I think it's a compression/compensator issue. Releases have kept it from happening to mine since installed. It would do it as a 96. When mine would do it, I'd let off the starter immediately, cycle the run switch to off, then back on and hit the starter while the pump was still priming. I don't know if it was turning it over that did the trick or what, but that worked every time.
Personally, I think it's a compression/compensator issue. Releases have kept it from happening to mine since installed. It would do it as a 96. When mine would do it, I'd let off the starter immediately, cycle the run switch to off, then back on and hit the starter while the pump was still priming. I don't know if it was turning it over that did the trick or what, but that worked every time.
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This is not just happening on the 110, I developed this same condition about 4 weeks ago on my 15 FXDB. I keep mine on a tender all week, and it starts up fine when I take it out on the weekend. Three times now, I have stopped for gas after riding between 30-90 minutes straight. I get gas, and bam... half crank, stop, and VINERR pops up. I let off the start switch, and try again, it fires right up. Because it starts on the second try, I too was wondering of this is an ACR issue. I don't have a PV, so I will have to listen for the "clicks".
EDIT: I went back and re-read a few posts here, and in theory, the ACRs seem very logical. I will admit, HD motors are very new to me, but the fact that I get a half crank, then stop... Then try again with no issue, that really seems like the ACRs. My question is, will the ACRs open after the first stall? Just to put it out there, I have not turned the ignition switch off when this happens, just let off the starter switch, then hit it again.
EDIT: I went back and re-read a few posts here, and in theory, the ACRs seem very logical. I will admit, HD motors are very new to me, but the fact that I get a half crank, then stop... Then try again with no issue, that really seems like the ACRs. My question is, will the ACRs open after the first stall? Just to put it out there, I have not turned the ignition switch off when this happens, just let off the starter switch, then hit it again.
Last edited by Maxxsmart; Aug 17, 2016 at 07:32 PM.