Should I dyno
Thread Starter
|
Road Captain
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 544
Likes: 61
From: San Diego
Should I dyno
I've got a 2016 Low Rider S that I'm looking at adding Two Brothers exhaust to. The local shop wants just shy of 2K to get the exhaust, power commander V, install, and dyno tune it.
For under 1K I can get the exhaust and either a FP3 or PC V myself and install it all and do the butt dyno.
I will NOT be doing any more upgrades until the engine is dead so even though the FP3 doesn't have a lot of expandability, it seems like it would do what I need it to and it would be YEARS before I would need anything else.
My goal is just better sound and performance gains would be nice, but as long as I'm not losing Anything it isn't a priority.
Is it really worth paying all that money for a dyno?
For under 1K I can get the exhaust and either a FP3 or PC V myself and install it all and do the butt dyno.
I will NOT be doing any more upgrades until the engine is dead so even though the FP3 doesn't have a lot of expandability, it seems like it would do what I need it to and it would be YEARS before I would need anything else.
My goal is just better sound and performance gains would be nice, but as long as I'm not losing Anything it isn't a priority.
Is it really worth paying all that money for a dyno?
Club Member
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 10,734
Likes: 3,755
From: SWFL
Why oh why would a shop recommend a PCV for a bike that a Power Vision is available for?
For $999 you can get a fuelmoto e series or jackpot 2:1, a power vision and a lifetime of support and maps from one of the better tuners out there. I just ordered that same package today (e-series) for my Road Glide.
With the PV and autotuneing a Fuelmoto map you can get it pretty damn close to perfect. A dyno will get you that extra few percent if its worth the several hundred bucks to you...
For $999 you can get a fuelmoto e series or jackpot 2:1, a power vision and a lifetime of support and maps from one of the better tuners out there. I just ordered that same package today (e-series) for my Road Glide.
With the PV and autotuneing a Fuelmoto map you can get it pretty damn close to perfect. A dyno will get you that extra few percent if its worth the several hundred bucks to you...
Last edited by Mchad; Dec 10, 2016 at 05:09 PM.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 3,410
Likes: 143
From: Palm Desert,CA
Well here goes opinion number 1...
I would definitely buy the exhaust and either a FP3 (has more potential than you may think), or a Power Vision 2. Do the install yourself and if buying the PV2 get it from Fuel Moto with a canned map. They are incredibly close plus you can auto tune of course. With the PV2 you have a lot of options including getting a dyno tune later. Most shops will not tune with the FP3.
I did like getting my bike dyno'd, I found that he smoothed out the throttle better than the canned map or auto tune. But to be fair it was darn close.
Regardless of how you go, I would NOT use your dealer to do the dyno. They charge more and are very limited in what they can do since they will always work within the parameters of Compliance. If getting it done find an Indy with a great reputation.
Hope this helps and ride safe!
I would definitely buy the exhaust and either a FP3 (has more potential than you may think), or a Power Vision 2. Do the install yourself and if buying the PV2 get it from Fuel Moto with a canned map. They are incredibly close plus you can auto tune of course. With the PV2 you have a lot of options including getting a dyno tune later. Most shops will not tune with the FP3.
I did like getting my bike dyno'd, I found that he smoothed out the throttle better than the canned map or auto tune. But to be fair it was darn close.
Regardless of how you go, I would NOT use your dealer to do the dyno. They charge more and are very limited in what they can do since they will always work within the parameters of Compliance. If getting it done find an Indy with a great reputation.
Hope this helps and ride safe!
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,907
Likes: 8,758
From: Galt's Gulch - MI
Personally, I wouldn't waste any time with the PCV; if you're completely certain you won't be doing upgrades past the Stage 1 I'd get the FP3 and auto tune it myself. I went the Power Vision path since I know I'm doing much more but the supplied FuelMoto base map and auto tune runs have given me a ride that performs, and performs very well 
I didn't and won't bother with any dyno tuning in the future as I make changes to the engine configuration. The FuelMoto base maps are that good
Do the exhaust and tuner yourself, but get your FP3 from FuelMoto; their maps are on the money accurate...
I didn't and won't bother with any dyno tuning in the future as I make changes to the engine configuration. The FuelMoto base maps are that good
Do the exhaust and tuner yourself, but get your FP3 from FuelMoto; their maps are on the money accurate...
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,907
Likes: 8,758
From: Galt's Gulch - MI
Why oh why would a shop recommend a PCV for a bike that a Power Vision is available for?
For $999 you can get a fuelmoto e series or jackpot 2:1, a power vision and a lifetime of support and maps from one of the better tuners out there. I just ordered that same package today (e-series) for my Road Glide.
With the PV and autotuneing a Fuelmoto map you can get it pretty damn close to perfect. A dyno will get you that extra few percent if its worth the several hundred bucks to you...
For $999 you can get a fuelmoto e series or jackpot 2:1, a power vision and a lifetime of support and maps from one of the better tuners out there. I just ordered that same package today (e-series) for my Road Glide.
With the PV and autotuneing a Fuelmoto map you can get it pretty damn close to perfect. A dyno will get you that extra few percent if its worth the several hundred bucks to you...
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 190
Likes: 14
From: Spring Hill Kansas
At least do the install your self, the pipes are really easy to install. I did the PC V with a Fuelmoto tune and my bike runs great , pulls hard all the way through the power band.
Trending Topics
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 4,384
Likes: 8,742
From: Texas
Should I dyno
Yes
Bikes come off the show room floor no where close to optimally tuned - in fact its the opposite
So until you baseline it - doesn't matter what you add / upgrade
As for self tunes / butt tunes - wasted effort..., when compared to a "proper" dyno tune
Proper in parenthesis as not all tuners are worth a damn..., find one that is
You won't be disappointed
Ghost
Yes
Bikes come off the show room floor no where close to optimally tuned - in fact its the opposite
So until you baseline it - doesn't matter what you add / upgrade
As for self tunes / butt tunes - wasted effort..., when compared to a "proper" dyno tune
Proper in parenthesis as not all tuners are worth a damn..., find one that is
You won't be disappointed
Ghost
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Thread Starter
|
Road Captain
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 544
Likes: 61
From: San Diego
Thanks everyone for the replies.
The shop I use is an independent in Alpine CA.
I know I won't be doing anything else to the engine because it is my primary transportation and it can't be down for more than a day (weekend). I put almost 100 miles a day 5-7 days a week, so the miles are stacking up. When this motor dies I'll most likely get an SS motor to just drop in and THAT'S when I'll worry about getting every drop of power out of it.
I'm looking at the fuel moto place now. I think I'll get all the stuff myself and install it and maybe dyno down the road.
The shop I use is an independent in Alpine CA.
I know I won't be doing anything else to the engine because it is my primary transportation and it can't be down for more than a day (weekend). I put almost 100 miles a day 5-7 days a week, so the miles are stacking up. When this motor dies I'll most likely get an SS motor to just drop in and THAT'S when I'll worry about getting every drop of power out of it.
I'm looking at the fuel moto place now. I think I'll get all the stuff myself and install it and maybe dyno down the road.