Dyna Glide Models Super Glide, Super Glide Sport, Super Glide Custom, Dyna Glide Convertible, Super Glide T-Sport, Dyna Glide Police, Dyna Switchback, Low Rider, Street Bob, Fat Bob and Wide Glide.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

At a loss

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 02:44 PM
  #11  
Scudda's Avatar
Scudda
Stellar HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,293
Likes: 3,518
From: PA
Default

I had close to the same thing happen on my bike...it was a bad battery and lose cable
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 02:57 PM
  #12  
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,830
Likes: 7,968
From: poway
Default

Crank sensors will typically generate codes if the they are flaky.. If they flat out quit. they won't produce a code.. Easy way to tell of the cranks sensor is working it to listen to the fuel pump after cranking. It should stay on for a second or 2 after. If not the ECU is likely not seeing the crank signal.. ECU will enable the fuel pump any time it sees the crank spin.. You should hear the pump run on key to tell you that the HB switch is good and fuel pump electrics are working.

Add: The statement on fuel pressure is right on.. It needs checking and since that was the last place mess with, I'd suspect something wrong there.. Squirting fuel in the intake is an easy way to verify as stated..
 

Last edited by Max Headflow; Feb 7, 2017 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Add
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:12 PM
  #13  
Tall Timber's Avatar
Tall Timber
Road Warrior
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,363
Likes: 427
From: Yarra Ranges, Victoria, Australia
Default

I did a crank sensor and it didn't behave anything like what you've described. It also returned a code.

Isn't there a filter inside the tank? was thgat replaced with the tank? I've seen one go and what you're describing sounds similar.

Is your bike a canbus model? I would have thought any issue if electrical would spit out a fault code. Faulty filters on the otehr hand.....
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:18 PM
  #14  
Stevos50nuts's Avatar
Stevos50nuts
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 185
Likes: 2
From: Weymouth, Ma
Default

Dam I pulled my tank to have it painted. Hope I don't catch what you got.......no offense. Hope you get it worked out soon
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:49 PM
  #15  
Nickd2689's Avatar
Nickd2689
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 259
From: Northstreet, michigan
Default

Originally Posted by Tall Timber
I did a crank sensor and it didn't behave anything like what you've described. It also returned a code.

Isn't there a filter inside the tank? was thgat replaced with the tank? I've seen one go and what you're describing sounds similar.

Is your bike a canbus model? I would have thought any issue if electrical would spit out a fault code. Faulty filters on the otehr hand.....
crank sensors typically WILL set a dtc, and there are multiple dtc's they could set. For instance, erratic signal, reference voltage open/short to ground, no signal etc, however it is possible for them not to produce a dtc. The best thing to do is see if the injectors are firing first, if not, crank the bike while observing ckps voltage. If a scan tool/tuner is available, it would be easiest to observe ckps in the data stream. If not you will have to back probe the connector and test with a dmn (volt meter). There will be 3 wires: signal, reference voltage (should be 5 volts) and ground.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2017 | 06:38 PM
  #16  
1957buick's Avatar
1957buick
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 975
Likes: 212
From: northern nj
Default

I had the same symptoms with my 08 ultra . ended up changing the entire fuel pump assembly in the tank problem 90% solved . the fuel hoses get very brittle and can spray fuel inside the tank . check it . from what you said it ran ok before painting tank , did you remove the fuel pump from the tank ? if so the hoses could leak !!
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:03 AM
  #17  
fldaddy2's Avatar
fldaddy2
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Wichita, KS.
Default

UPDATE: Last night when I got home I pulled plug out of rear cylinder and checked for fire. Had none. Put plug back in, pulled front plug to check for spark (rule out bad plug throwing me off). Bike cranked over several times with no spark, then suddenly it sparked and bike started. Put plug back in, bike started 4 times so I went and bought a coil. Got home, tried to start in hopes it wouldn't and the new coil would verify that was the problem if bike did start. Replaced coil and still did not start. So I did as someone suggested and removed the gas cap and listened for fuel being sprayed inside tank. Sure ****, heard a significant spraying. Removed console and top plate to locate source of spray. It seemed to be coming from the back of the filter housing, so I figured it was cracked. I took pump apart and pulled it from tank. There is a "pressure switch" on the back of the filter housing with a hole on opposite side of housing and that's where the spray was coming from. Since I had it apart, I tried blowing through filter. Sumbitch was clogged solid. During this time I had noticed quite a few large pieces of debris inside tank (paint). I finished pumping out the fuel (using hand pump), removed the large debris and at this point noticed a shitload of very tiny gold glittery like particles floating everywhere and running down inside of tank. It was the paint and metal flake from when the previous tank owner painted it and didn't mask **** off. In my excitement to get **** fixed it never even dawned on me the paint I saw through the center hole would ever be a problem. I know, f-n retard. Sometimes my body moves faster than my mind. Anyway, I have now fully cleaned the inside of the tank (the best anyone could hope for anyway). For ***** and giggles I blew out the filters (yes, I know ruined them, but they were getting replaced anyway) and reinstalled assembly, added a splash of fuel just to see if she'd fire. No dice. I figure at this point that paint residue has acted like a varnish and varnished up my injectors. I am going to pull them tonight, flush the lines, replace the filters and start all over with a clean tank, clean filters and clean fuel. Fingers crossed. and if this doesn't solve the problem, Im just gonna have to take it in to be worked on. WISH ME LUCK.
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:14 AM
  #18  
cggorman's Avatar
cggorman
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 11,448
Likes: 2,299
From: NW Ohio
Default

Good luck!
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

The Best and Worst Harley-Davidson Moves of 2025

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:30 AM
  #19  
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,830
Likes: 7,968
From: poway
Default

If you pushed a bunch of that flake through the fuel pump, you might want to think about replacing it too.
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2017 | 10:55 AM
  #20  
Nickd2689's Avatar
Nickd2689
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 259
From: Northstreet, michigan
Default

Good luck. You're not "f-n retard" it's easy to over look these things. The part that bothers me is that you said you didn't have spark, which will be a completely separate issue. Check your injectors like you said, but there's a good chance the filter stopped the flake before it reached the injectors. The screen on the pump will need to be replaced and possibly the pump as well. If you continue to lack spark, test power/ground to the coil, if none, were right back to the crank/cam sensor. One handles fuel, the other spark. Good luck.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:11 PM.

story-0
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-3
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-4
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-8
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best and Worst Harley-Davidson Moves of 2025

Slideshow: A clear-eyed look at what actually worked for Harley this year, and what quietly undermined its progress.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-29 17:10:48


VIEW MORE