Rec's on cams
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Road Warrior
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Rec's on cams
im looking to do a cam swap. I wanted something simple, where I can use my stock cam plate, oil pump etc. Basically i want to swap my stock cams for something that will give me a little more umph, Any recommendations? I was looking at the fueling cams, but their 525 cam says its for 103" strokers? S&S seems to be all I can find for a direct drop in replacement cam, but they are 100 dollars more than anyone else...
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Well first of all what bike, mods, riding style, etc? Everyone asks for cam suggestions (myself included) but fail to realize that they need to do their own research to find out what cam will best suit their needs. There are a lot of factors to consider such as what type of riding you do, where you want your power band, what mods or future mods you have planned, etc.
miss far as suggestions go, I'd stick with HD because that's my preference, however there are a lot of good cams out there like woods, s&s, and many others.
Im running screamin eagle 259e cams and I love em, however I have a 117 big bore. Even with a 103 the 259e is a good choice.
Anyway tell all us more about your bike, riding style, performance plans, etc and maybe we can help
miss far as suggestions go, I'd stick with HD because that's my preference, however there are a lot of good cams out there like woods, s&s, and many others.
Im running screamin eagle 259e cams and I love em, however I have a 117 big bore. Even with a 103 the 259e is a good choice.
Anyway tell all us more about your bike, riding style, performance plans, etc and maybe we can help
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Road Warrior
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Im looking for mid range power. I dont want to lose any low end, but id like to have some grunt at mid rpm. I mainly ride freeways, commuting. Its a 14 fxdl, fp3, bassani road rage 2, big sucker A/C...your basic stage one. I want a set of cams that will retain the stock oil pump and cam plate. from what I am seeing, this can be done with the s&s easy start HP103. its .575 lift, but I dont know how that compares to the stock 103 cam. anyone know the lift of the stock cam?
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Road Warrior
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look slike the s&s mr103 is what I should go with, from s&s's site;MR103: These bolt in-cams are for the rider who wants more of everything without giving up low end torque for high rpm horsepower, or vice versa. More power all across the wide power band, from idle to red line.
anyone have experience with this cam?
anyone have experience with this cam?
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I went with Andrews 57H cams when I did the 103 kit. After a good dyno my bike ran great. Then I had head work done and with same cams made over 100 hp and 112 tq. The Andrews 57H is a great cam for a 103
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Road Warrior
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Interesting, So i should be able to run the 57h cams with s&s quickie push rods and s&S lifters right? I should replace the bearings as well, do you know if the 57H includes the bearings?
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I went with Andrews 57h cams as well last summer. Nice bump in power everywhere in the rev range, but more noticeable at 3krpm and higher. I think Woods 555, S&S MR103's are in this range too. If you want something that hits a little earlier, the Woods 222 and, I believe the TTS-100 fall in this range.
Since the 57H install, I notice I'm running a little higher revs now to be right at the beginning of the power curve for the engine. Stage 1 was mostly cruising in the 2.5k+ rpm range. Now closer to 3k rpm.
Since the 57H install, I notice I'm running a little higher revs now to be right at the beginning of the power curve for the engine. Stage 1 was mostly cruising in the 2.5k+ rpm range. Now closer to 3k rpm.
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Do you have the shop manual? If you don't, get it. Also, fellow member robbyville gave a great write up on his cam installation. Actually, I'm running his Andrews 57H cams since he went to a different cam later on. Assuming you're also running a high flow air cleaner and non stock exhaust. If you don't have one, get a good ECM tuner. I'm currently running the V&H FP3, and while it's good for Stage 1 applications, I'm not sold on it as a Stage II + tuner. Later this spring (when funds become available), I'm looking at either a Power Vision or TTS-Mastertune.
Lastly, you will be able to use your oil pump and stock parts, however, FOLLOW THE MANUAL for reinstallation of the oil pump. I didn't and I had to purchase a new cam plate and oil pump. $400 that was not budgeted.
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Road Warrior
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If you're just buying the cams, bearings won't be included. Yes, the cams are compatible with the S&S Quickie PR's and lifters. I'm running the S&S hydraulic lifters and S&S Adjustable PR's (not Quickies...it should be noted, I was also replacing the rocker covers and didn't need the convenience of the Quickies, the major difference between the 2 is with the Quickies they will collapse enough to not need the removal of the tappet covers). Also purchased a Fuehling gasket kit, which did include the bearings, small vial of assembly lube, replacement sprocket bolts and of course all the gaskets needed. You will need a tool specific to the application of the removal/installation for the bearings. Heartland bearing tool seems to be what most use, and this is what I used as well. You see this tool come up time to time in the used section on this site.
Do you have the shop manual? If you don't, get it. Also, fellow member robbyville gave a great write up on his cam installation. Actually, I'm running his Andrews 57H cams since he went to a different cam later on. Assuming you're also running a high flow air cleaner and non stock exhaust. If you don't have one, get a good ECM tuner. I'm currently running the V&H FP3, and while it's good for Stage 1 applications, I'm not sold on it as a Stage II + tuner. Later this spring (when funds become available), I'm looking at either a Power Vision or TTS-Mastertune.
Lastly, you will be able to use your oil pump and stock parts, however, FOLLOW THE MANUAL for reinstallation of the oil pump. I didn't and I had to purchase a new cam plate and oil pump. $400 that was not budgeted.
Do you have the shop manual? If you don't, get it. Also, fellow member robbyville gave a great write up on his cam installation. Actually, I'm running his Andrews 57H cams since he went to a different cam later on. Assuming you're also running a high flow air cleaner and non stock exhaust. If you don't have one, get a good ECM tuner. I'm currently running the V&H FP3, and while it's good for Stage 1 applications, I'm not sold on it as a Stage II + tuner. Later this spring (when funds become available), I'm looking at either a Power Vision or TTS-Mastertune.
Lastly, you will be able to use your oil pump and stock parts, however, FOLLOW THE MANUAL for reinstallation of the oil pump. I didn't and I had to purchase a new cam plate and oil pump. $400 that was not budgeted.