Explain Triple Trees?
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Explain Triple Trees?
I have read quite a few postings about triple trees but I have not seen a post about why changing them helps. What the heck is it? Why does it help so much?
Along the same line, if someone is so inclined to spend more money on their ride (me) should they also get a steering stabilizer at the same time?
Please school me.
Along the same line, if someone is so inclined to spend more money on their ride (me) should they also get a steering stabilizer at the same time?
Please school me.
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It sounds like you're having a problem and feel that you need to change or add something. Tell us exactly what bike do you have and what is the problem.
Reasons for changing trees: looks, rake angle or wanting a wider front tire are some things.
Depending on what your ride and what kind of riding you do, a stabilizer may help.
Reasons for changing trees: looks, rake angle or wanting a wider front tire are some things.
Depending on what your ride and what kind of riding you do, a stabilizer may help.
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If you don't know what they are I would not recommend you fiddling around with changing them at this time. You at have seen some mention of guys swapping the top tree for a non integrated one (meaning the risers are integrated)
It requires a knowledge to change the rake and trail of your bike effectively because a misstep in this area could have negative consequences for handling and your safety.
It requires a knowledge to change the rake and trail of your bike effectively because a misstep in this area could have negative consequences for handling and your safety.
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Jason did
Jackin w/ the tripples / forks - can screw up a bike's geometry (and handling) quicker than greased lightening
It can also be the icing on the proverbial cake..., which makes it handle like it on rails
First identify if there in fact any issue / issues - then we can collectively discuss next steps
That is a solution - looking for a problem - that 99 1/2 times out of 100 - the problem simply does not exist - except in the head of the rider
Ghost
Jackin w/ the tripples / forks - can screw up a bike's geometry (and handling) quicker than greased lightening
It can also be the icing on the proverbial cake..., which makes it handle like it on rails
First identify if there in fact any issue / issues - then we can collectively discuss next steps
Ghost
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Dynas are pretty capable for mid-size cruisers, but there are things that aren't perfect and other things that it just isn't great at without some pretty significant changes. It's a very versatile platform but you need to be clear in identifying your needs in order to build the fix.
There are long-range Dyna Baggers, Dyna bar hoppers/bobbers, Dyna street machines/warriors, Dyna throwbacks, even (gasp!) Dyna stockers...
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1. What model bike do you ride
2. Is the bike not nimble enough
3. To much wiggle in front end (why you ask about stabilizer)
4. Rear end steering?
give us more info
2. Is the bike not nimble enough
3. To much wiggle in front end (why you ask about stabilizer)
4. Rear end steering?
give us more info
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I appreciate you guys pushing for more info. If I am looking for anything I would like a little less wobble when really getting on it, at higher speeds. That wobble you get that leaves if you let off the throttle a bit.
This is my first Harley, came from a crotch rocket, so I am not an expert on Harley handling at all. All that said, I am happy with the handling but reading some of the posts like URL the triple tree upgrade sounded like a way to get better handling. That is why I was asking what all the hub bub was all about because I am curious. Does that help?
My ride: 2016 Low RIder S / 117 Big Bore Kit / TBR 2 into 1 Comp S Racing Exhaust : Power Vision Tuner / 106HP:121TQ
This is my first Harley, came from a crotch rocket, so I am not an expert on Harley handling at all. All that said, I am happy with the handling but reading some of the posts like URL the triple tree upgrade sounded like a way to get better handling. That is why I was asking what all the hub bub was all about because I am curious. Does that help?
My ride: 2016 Low RIder S / 117 Big Bore Kit / TBR 2 into 1 Comp S Racing Exhaust : Power Vision Tuner / 106HP:121TQ
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I appreciate you guys pushing for more info. If I am looking for anything I would like a little less wobble when really getting on it, at higher speeds. That wobble you get that leaves if you let off the throttle a bit.
This is my first Harley, came from a crotch rocket, so I am not an expert on Harley handling at all. All that said, I am happy with the handling but reading some of the posts like URL the triple tree upgrade sounded like a way to get better handling. That is why I was asking what all the hub bub was all about because I am curious. Does that help?
My ride: 2016 Low RIder S / 117 Big Bore Kit / TBR 2 into 1 Comp S Racing Exhaust : Power Vision Tuner / 106HP:121TQ
This is my first Harley, came from a crotch rocket, so I am not an expert on Harley handling at all. All that said, I am happy with the handling but reading some of the posts like URL the triple tree upgrade sounded like a way to get better handling. That is why I was asking what all the hub bub was all about because I am curious. Does that help?
My ride: 2016 Low RIder S / 117 Big Bore Kit / TBR 2 into 1 Comp S Racing Exhaust : Power Vision Tuner / 106HP:121TQ
The Dyna uses a front and rear isolator and a stabilizer at the top; the Dyna lives and dies by its engine/vehicle alignment and the condition of the isolators. Think of the Dyna in two sections; the frame, forks, and front wheel are one section; the engine, primary, transmission, rear fork, and rear wheel are the other, riding on the isolators. Those two sections need to be in proper alignment.
Begin by inspecting the condition of the isolators, the front is a known issue for premature wear due to poor alignment and contamination of the rubber of the isolator with engine oil during oil filter removals. Many on the forum have upgraded their front isolator to aftermarket mounts; a Predator is on my Wide Glide.
Follow the vehicle/engine alignment procedure in the SM to confirm you bike is in correct alignment; new doesn't mean correct; mine wasn't when it was brand new
Look to your front suspension; I don't know what HD is using on the S but the stuff they use on the average Dyna, calling it craptastic is being kind. Tires are another aspect to consider upgrading; there's no magic bullet, it's a step by step process to improve the handling characteristics of the bike letting you get to use all those go-fast parts 
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Headed in the right direction
Wobble only shows up under "extreme" load (acceleration) - disappears when load lessened
40 question time
What brand tires you runnin
Is the tread good on them - any signs of wear
What air pressures you have them at
How often do you check air pressure
How are the tires balanced (weights / beads / ride on)
Have you ever verified they are balanced
How far are the forks set above the upper tree (this measurement is critical - be exact when measuring)
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Try and describe this wobble a bit more
Shake.., or side to side.., or something else
Is it in your hands..., butt..., feet - some combination
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Side note
I get it a 16..., and **** should be new / in proper working order
"It should" - does not mean it is
Need to verify / baseline what it is you actually have
Ghost
40 question time
What brand tires you runnin
Is the tread good on them - any signs of wear
What air pressures you have them at
How often do you check air pressure
How are the tires balanced (weights / beads / ride on)
Have you ever verified they are balanced
How far are the forks set above the upper tree (this measurement is critical - be exact when measuring)
==================
Try and describe this wobble a bit more
Shake.., or side to side.., or something else
Is it in your hands..., butt..., feet - some combination
=====================
Side note
I get it a 16..., and **** should be new / in proper working order
"It should" - does not mean it is
Need to verify / baseline what it is you actually have
Ghost