Received Wrong Predator Mount?
Road Master
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 11
From: Huntley, IL
The actual time it took for the install was about 20 min. I replaced the old mount with the OEM when I did the oil change. I was asked to do this video for their website. When I got the Predator, the whole procedure was still fresh in my mind. Making the video was time consuming.
Believe it or not. I haven't had a chance to really test out this mount. I've been so busy the last few years. I only put 100 or so miles on the bike.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 666
Likes: 95
From: Berlin
Once the bike is properly positioned, this job only takes about a half hour. I't really very easy. I found the best way was to have the bike fully upright using whatever form of lift/jack/friends you may have, and then position a small scissor jack (possibly from your trunk) under the front of the engine to take weight off the mount itself. After some trial and error, I also found it was best to leave ALL of the bolts a little bit loose, then start the engine. Blip the throttle a little, and then tighten and torque everything with the bike idling. This helps prevent locking the engine into a slightly misaligned position... At least that was my impression...
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Joined: Jul 2016
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From: Texas
Not very
Couple of jacks..., couple of wrenches..., and two / three beers
Easy one man job
OP
Ya got the right one..., don't overthink it - and start idle the motor before torquing the bolts - that allows the motor to settle and center
Idle..., do not rev - then shut it down and tighten
NOTE
This mount will not fix vibrations - that is unless the current mount bad
It will make the bike corner / turn really.., really well
Ghost
Couple of jacks..., couple of wrenches..., and two / three beers
Easy one man job
OP
Ya got the right one..., don't overthink it - and start idle the motor before torquing the bolts - that allows the motor to settle and center
Idle..., do not rev - then shut it down and tighten
NOTE
This mount will not fix vibrations - that is unless the current mount bad
It will make the bike corner / turn really.., really well
Ghost
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 673
Likes: 30
From: Warrington England
I keep reading that the Predator,dosen't stop/cure/fix,vibrations,which is a bit strange,because that's what it's designed to do,the stability is a by product of the design.
Now if there is no vibration to start with,then i suppose it can't cure it,but that is it's purpose,the clue is in the name of the manufacturer Vibra Technics.
Now if there is no vibration to start with,then i suppose it can't cure it,but that is it's purpose,the clue is in the name of the manufacturer Vibra Technics.
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2016
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From: Texas
I keep reading that the Predator,dosen't stop/cure/fix,vibrations,which is a bit strange,because that's what it's designed to do,the stability is a by product of the design.
Now if there is no vibration to start with,then i suppose it can't cure it,but that is it's purpose,the clue is in the name of the manufacturer Vibra Technics.
Now if there is no vibration to start with,then i suppose it can't cure it,but that is it's purpose,the clue is in the name of the manufacturer Vibra Technics.
At times it seems everyone and their dog has a "vibration" issue round here
So when one speaks of this..., that..., or the other - vibration issue - one has to be real damn specific
Especially if they're looking for us to help diagnosis it
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Predator eliminates (or at least significantly reduces) lateral movement
Think of it as sideways vibration..., if that'll help wrap your head around it
Lateral forces want to make the bike go straight..., in a turn..., they also counter act side to side maneuvers - when traveling straight
This mount "neutralizes" the bike's predisposition of fighting these
So when you want to turn - the bike turns...., when you want to maneuver - sideways..., at speed
Bike responds to your input - as opposed to fighting you every damn step of the way
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It not a cure all - rather icing..., on a layered approach..., to obtaining a very nice handling..., very responsive - scoot
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btw
Never can tell about a name - go figure
Ghost
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,840
Likes: 900
From: Philly Suburbs
Side note
At times it seems everyone and their dog has a "vibration" issue round here
So when one speaks of this..., that..., or the other - vibration issue - one has to be real damn specific
Especially if they're looking for us to help diagnosis it
==============
Predator eliminates (or at least significantly reduces) lateral movement
Think of it as sideways vibration..., if that'll help wrap your head around it
Lateral forces want to make the bike go straight..., in a turn..., they also counter act side to side maneuvers - when traveling straight
This mount "neutralizes" the bike's predisposition of fighting these
So when you want to turn - the bike turns...., when you want to maneuver - sideways..., at speed
Bike responds to your input - as opposed to fighting you every damn step of the way
=============
It not a cure all - rather icing..., on a layered approach..., to obtaining a very nice handling..., very responsive - scoot
=================
btw
Never can tell about a name - go figure
Ghost
At times it seems everyone and their dog has a "vibration" issue round here
So when one speaks of this..., that..., or the other - vibration issue - one has to be real damn specific
Especially if they're looking for us to help diagnosis it
==============
Predator eliminates (or at least significantly reduces) lateral movement
Think of it as sideways vibration..., if that'll help wrap your head around it
Lateral forces want to make the bike go straight..., in a turn..., they also counter act side to side maneuvers - when traveling straight
This mount "neutralizes" the bike's predisposition of fighting these
So when you want to turn - the bike turns...., when you want to maneuver - sideways..., at speed
Bike responds to your input - as opposed to fighting you every damn step of the way
=============
It not a cure all - rather icing..., on a layered approach..., to obtaining a very nice handling..., very responsive - scoot
=================
btw
Never can tell about a name - go figure
Ghost
So a front engine stabilizer can result in much better handling from the rear wheel overall.
Dynas are interesting... It's not just the engine that's rubber mounted... The whole frame, fork and front wheel are essentially one unit, while the drivetrain, swingarm are rear wheel are another. The two units are pretty much attached to each other with rubber mounts. The desired balance between a rigid structure and a vibration-free ride may be different for different riders... I favor chassis dynamics over engine isolation (at least to a point).
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Tourer
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 362
Likes: 22
From: New York
Ok, the Predator mount is installed but now its raining here in NewYorkaStan. Took just under 2 hrs. Biggest problem I had was getting a small jack under the front center of the motor to relieve the weight. I was able to torque all the bolts because my oil filter is mounted on the left down tube and there is a small cone shaped adapter where the filter used to be. The oem mount was oil soaked and the rubber on one side split almost all the way through. Thanks for all the help but I tend to think the worse when I do something like this.
Last edited by Rubline; Jun 10, 2017 at 09:34 AM.
