A simple question about horsepower
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Cruiser
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From: ValleyGrande,Al.
To be a little more clear, it is definitely not about numbers. I 100% agree about the torque versus hp thing. What I am really wanting is the best performance, as well as reliability, from the 96 in motor. However I am not opposed to BB kits. Already running AC, 2/1 exhaust, TTS tuner. I also a fan of the Dark horse bottom end Reindeer. Since money is always a concern for most of us working folks, I agree about that hard earned money being well spent.
Last edited by Dex07FXD; Jul 1, 2017 at 07:39 AM.
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Cruiser
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From: ValleyGrande,Al.
Are you just looking for numbers? Why are you looking for more power? Lots of factors play into building your bike. Build it right the first time do your research and spend the money up front or you will be doing it over again. Are you looking for for just a cam swap with pipes and an air cleaner or go the big bore route.
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Compression comes from the combustion chamber size not cubic inch. Stock style flat top pistons in a 107 or 110 are going to be the same compression. Dropping head gasket height as well as getting a domed piston will give you more compression. Compression needed will be determined by which cam you decide to run. Some cams are meant for a higher compression build some are meant for less. All depends on what your looking for.
ie: stock 88" twin cam has 85cc heads, .045" head gasket, and 724cc swept volume, resulting in ~ 8.8:1
same thing, bored to 95"- 85cc heads, .045" head gasket, and 773cc swept volume, resulting in ~ 9.3:1
Another thing to consider is where do you ride? RPM wise, i mean. No sense making a hundred ponies at 6000 RPM if you consistently shift at 3500 or 4000 RPM. Build for the area you spend 95% of your time, not 5%.
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Big bore drop on 110" jugs and slugs, S&S 585 E-Z start cams, quality headwork and Powervision tune by someone who knows what they're doing.
Add SE pressure plate and ride sensibly
Done.
Everything else is upsell...
Add SE pressure plate and ride sensibly
Done.
Everything else is upsell...
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From: Northstreet, michigan
i dunno, I still think it's a good idea to upgrade to larger carb/intake manifold...my setup included a larger throttlebody and injectors and while I know there's a difference between carb & fuel injection I'd still suggest larger intake if it's available. Especially with headwork
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Makes one wonder if most you mothers ever seen reliable HP..., let alone built it
96 motor?
FI - I'll assume
How many miles *this is important for what the motor can currently take upgrade wise*
How do you intend on utilizing this reliable HP (bar hopper reliability..., is different from racing HP reliability..., is different from solo cruising HP..., is different from two up.., w/ gear touring.., is different from weekend warrior BS)
You're lookin at ~ $4 - 6K.., (and maybe more depending)
Reliability comes from the bottom end
Likely cases will need reworked (and likely bored for jugs).., possibly the mains replaced..., hi flow oil pump...,
Cam gear?? (you did emphasize reliable)
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Find a local motor builder (good one) and talk to him for recommendations
Ghost
I would like to up the hp on my 07 superglide
looking for experienced replies as to what it takes to reach 100 hp, or close
I will do all the work myself on a stage 1 bike
would like for it to be as bulletproof as possible.
Anyone can jack up power on something, I want it to be reliable
looking for experienced replies as to what it takes to reach 100 hp, or close
I will do all the work myself on a stage 1 bike
would like for it to be as bulletproof as possible.
Anyone can jack up power on something, I want it to be reliable
FI - I'll assume
How many miles *this is important for what the motor can currently take upgrade wise*
How do you intend on utilizing this reliable HP (bar hopper reliability..., is different from racing HP reliability..., is different from solo cruising HP..., is different from two up.., w/ gear touring.., is different from weekend warrior BS)
You're lookin at ~ $4 - 6K.., (and maybe more depending)
Reliability comes from the bottom end
Likely cases will need reworked (and likely bored for jugs).., possibly the mains replaced..., hi flow oil pump...,
Cam gear?? (you did emphasize reliable)
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Find a local motor builder (good one) and talk to him for recommendations
Ghost
Last edited by Ghost_13; Jul 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM.
i offered these folks 2k and they took it.
no boring, no head work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-S-Cycle-Wi...72.m2749.l2649
i'm happy....
no boring, no head work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-S-Cycle-Wi...72.m2749.l2649
i'm happy....
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Cruiser
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From: ValleyGrande,Al.
Makes one wonder if most you mothers ever seen reliable HP..., let alone built it
96 motor?
FI - I'll assume
How many miles *this is important for what the motor can currently take upgrade wise*
How do you intend on utilizing this reliable HP (bar hopper reliability..., is different from racing HP reliability..., is different from solo cruising HP..., is different from two up.., w/ gear touring.., is different from weekend warrior BS)
You're lookin at ~ $4 - 6K.., (and maybe more depending)
Reliability comes from the bottom end
Likely cases will need reworked (and likely bored for jugs).., possibly the mains replaced..., hi flow oil pump...,
Cam gear?? (you did emphasize reliable)
===============
Find a local motor builder (good one) and talk to him for recommendations
Ghost
96 motor?
FI - I'll assume
How many miles *this is important for what the motor can currently take upgrade wise*
How do you intend on utilizing this reliable HP (bar hopper reliability..., is different from racing HP reliability..., is different from solo cruising HP..., is different from two up.., w/ gear touring.., is different from weekend warrior BS)
You're lookin at ~ $4 - 6K.., (and maybe more depending)
Reliability comes from the bottom end
Likely cases will need reworked (and likely bored for jugs).., possibly the mains replaced..., hi flow oil pump...,
Cam gear?? (you did emphasize reliable)
===============
Find a local motor builder (good one) and talk to him for recommendations
Ghost
Thread Starter
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Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 100
Likes: 12
From: ValleyGrande,Al.
i offered these folks 2k and they took it.
no boring, no head work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-S-Cycle-Wi...72.m2749.l2649
i'm happy....
no boring, no head work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-S-Cycle-Wi...72.m2749.l2649
i'm happy....
Last edited by Dex07FXD; Jul 1, 2017 at 07:15 PM.