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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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I'm with ya Robby.

I'm regularly seeing temps of 290+ as well monitored by the PV shown by ET. I've taken quite a few notes on ambient temp, ride time, traffic, highway etc on my past 20 or so rides. I'd bet if it was 75* and I was in semi rush hour traffic for 20 minutes I'd hit 295+ ET according to the PV and 260+ oil temp according to HD's oil temp dipstick.

Thus, fans and oil cooler will be added in addition to relocated permanent oil filter, exhaust, PV, external breathers...

I'm also not sure how hot is too hot but I have seen that during auto tune, the PV will stop recording info after ET surpasses 300*. Sounds like a good shut-er-down figure to me.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
You got a Dyna. Right? Where are you measuring the temp?
I wasnt paying attention to temp until Dakota Digital alerted after reaching 300, which is where the alert is set at by default.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 10:41 PM
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let's say I was still running the stock speedo, is there any alarm code that goes off after reaching a certain temp? And if so what temp is that, anyone?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverSouth
I wasnt paying attention to temp until Dakota Digital alerted after reaching 300, which is where the alert is set at by default.
Go to the Dakota website and figure out what gauge you have. The web site tells you what temp sensor/sending unit the gauge is reporting. The combination speedo/gear/RPM/temp gauges that I saw on the DD web site for Dyna's measure head temperature. Head temperatures of 320 are normal.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by oleboy
Go to the Dakota website and figure out what gauge you have. The web site tells you what temp sensor/sending unit the gauge is reporting. The combination speedo/gear/RPM/temp gauges that I saw on the DD web site for Dyna's measure head temperature. Head temperatures of 320 are normal.
As far as I know, DD can only report the head unit temp, which is available through ECM. There is no oil temp built in for Dynas, therefore DD wouldt be reporting any oil temp.

People on this thread are talking about head temp, someone is saying 260 is extreme, which to me doesnt seem right.

Where did you get the info that 320 is normal for head temp?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RiverSouth
As far as I know, DD can only report the head unit temp, which is available through ECM. There is no oil temp built in for Dynas, therefore DD wouldt be reporting any oil temp.

People on this thread are talking about head temp, someone is saying 260 is extreme, which to me doesnt seem right.

Where did you get the info that 320 is normal for head temp?

If the DD is reading values off a CAN bus, it can read 2 temps as they are both available. One is head and the other is engine.. Do you know which it is?

What is the model / year and are there any mods to the bike? (you don't need to tell us about the chrome)
 
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by oleboy
Go to the Dakota website and figure out what gauge you have. The web site tells you what temp sensor/sending unit the gauge is reporting. The combination speedo/gear/RPM/temp gauges that I saw on the DD web site for Dyna's measure head temperature. Head temperatures of 320 are normal.
There's one sensor, it's located on the front cylinder; but it's not giving a true head reading, it's actually located well below the head. As I posted before, HD put it in the sweet spot

Head temperatures are well above what that sensor is reading, and the rear cylinder head would be even hotter.

In the Power Vision, that sensor data is called engine temperature (ET) and the cylinder head temperature (CHT) is an algorithm based on engine temperature and intake temperature (IAT).

The actual head temperature at the front is much higher than the sensor indicates and the rear? Who knows

That's why getting that lone sensor temperature down is important...
 
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
If the DD is reading values off a CAN bus, it can read 2 temps as they are both available. One is head and the other is engine.. Do you know which it is?

What is the model / year and are there any mods to the bike? (you don't need to tell us about the chrome)
Dont worry about the chrome, where did you get the info there are "2 temps"?

One is on the cylinder, where is the other one coming from?

DD MCL 3212 reports the cylinder head temp only..
 
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TinCupChalice
There's one sensor, it's located on the front cylinder; but it's not giving a true head reading, it's actually located well below the head. As I posted before, HD put it in the sweet spot

Head temperatures are well above what that sensor is reading, and the rear cylinder head would be even hotter.

In the Power Vision, that sensor data is called engine temperature (ET) and the cylinder head temperature (CHT) is an algorithm based on engine temperature and intake temperature (IAT).

The actual head temperature at the front is much higher than the sensor indicates and the rear? Who knows

That's why getting that lone sensor temperature down is important...
I am going to install the PV and compare the temp it reports to DD. I am assuming they will be the same
 
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Old Aug 9, 2017 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TinCupChalice
There's one sensor, it's located on the front cylinder; but it's not giving a true head reading, it's actually located well below the head. As I posted before, HD put it in the sweet spot

Head temperatures are well above what that sensor is reading, and the rear cylinder head would be even hotter.

In the Power Vision, that sensor data is called engine temperature (ET) and the cylinder head temperature (CHT) is an algorithm based on engine temperature and intake temperature (IAT).

The actual head temperature at the front is much higher than the sensor indicates and the rear? Who knows

That's why getting that lone sensor temperature down is important...
I'm confused. If the brass probe is screwed into the front head wouldn't the PV HT reading be the head temperature and the ET reading that is shown on the PV be an algorithm or some sort of calculation that was based on the HT reading? Where did you find the information that the probe was reading ET and then calculating the HT with an algorithm?
 
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