Re-lace or replace Spoke wheel
Road Warrior
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From: Lawrenceville Ga.
Yes they are FL touring sliders chromed and shaved off a 2010 Roadking....as for size not entirely sure are you asking? the width between the tubes where the axle goes though, or the distance from the fender mounting holes to the center of the axle hole? Cause I never really never measured it out. When I originally did the conversion, I used Fatbob trees with Hawg Haulers wide glide kit for 19" conversion from mid to wide.. Everything lined up perfectly for the 19" wheel.
When I switched over to this front end, I had custom trees made as well as the lower sliders done. It again lined up fine and the only thing I had to do was have the brake caliper milled 3mm off the mounting boss to center the caliper over the rotor. Probably the thickness of the extra chrome on the sliders. I am running traxxion springs (for my weight) and Rico intimadators (stock) Amsoil 10 wt shock therapy fluid. It is nice and stiff when it needs to be and compliant as well. It actually feel great. Shows how bad the rear shocks are.
When I switched over to this front end, I had custom trees made as well as the lower sliders done. It again lined up fine and the only thing I had to do was have the brake caliper milled 3mm off the mounting boss to center the caliper over the rotor. Probably the thickness of the extra chrome on the sliders. I am running traxxion springs (for my weight) and Rico intimadators (stock) Amsoil 10 wt shock therapy fluid. It is nice and stiff when it needs to be and compliant as well. It actually feel great. Shows how bad the rear shocks are.
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From: Nor Cal
The Fork Tube Spacing (eg. the Triple Trees fork tube center-to-center dimension)
The term "wide glide" front-end is kind of a General reference and can have a couple different Tube spacing dimensions.
Did the Machinist use those Fat Bob Trees as a "Reference"?
What Sliders (lowers) did use with the original Fat Bob Trees? ... same Touring sliders (just not shaved")?
Yeah, probably not that thick
The term "wide glide" front-end is kind of a General reference and can have a couple different Tube spacing dimensions.
When I originally did the conversion, I used Fatbob trees with Hawg Haulers wide glide kit for 19" conversion from mid to wide.. Everything lined up perfectly for the 19" wheel.
When I switched over to this front end, I had custom trees made as well as the lower sliders done. It again lined up fine and the only thing I had to do was have the brake caliper milled 3mm off the mounting boss to center the caliper over the rotor...
When I switched over to this front end, I had custom trees made as well as the lower sliders done. It again lined up fine and the only thing I had to do was have the brake caliper milled 3mm off the mounting boss to center the caliper over the rotor...
What Sliders (lowers) did use with the original Fat Bob Trees? ... same Touring sliders (just not shaved")?
Yeah, probably not that thick
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Road Master
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From: Belle River Ontario
When I first did the conversion over to "wide" trees, using the Fatbob tress I used the stock 49mm front end that came w/the bike.
The caliper was machined using my measurements to center it over the rotor. It needed to be machined as it was to far to the side when mounted. And yes the 3mm is probably to thick but I figured if I moved it to far I could always shim it, as it turned out the 3mm worked perfect.
Here is a pic of the bike with the fatbob trees etc
Attachment 619399
The caliper was machined using my measurements to center it over the rotor. It needed to be machined as it was to far to the side when mounted. And yes the 3mm is probably to thick but I figured if I moved it to far I could always shim it, as it turned out the 3mm worked perfect.
Here is a pic of the bike with the fatbob trees etc
Attachment 619399
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So... again, 
can you state what the fork tubes center-to-center dimension (spacing) of your Custom Trees is? ... especially since you said you had to mill the Caliper after changing Trees (and sliders, but that really doesn't count in your situation)
EDIT: Oh Yeah, and just for clarification/correction of my earlier statement ... You couldn't have used those 41mm Touring Sliders with Fat Bob Trees and 49mm Tubes ... I shouldn't have asked that
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can you state what the fork tubes center-to-center dimension (spacing) of your Custom Trees is? ... especially since you said you had to mill the Caliper after changing Trees (and sliders, but that really doesn't count in your situation)EDIT: Oh Yeah, and just for clarification/correction of my earlier statement ... You couldn't have used those 41mm Touring Sliders with Fat Bob Trees and 49mm Tubes ... I shouldn't have asked that
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From: Lawrenceville Ga.
When I first did the conversion over to "wide" trees, using the Fatbob tress I used the stock 49mm front end that came w/the bike.
The caliper was machined using my measurements to center it over the rotor. It needed to be machined as it was to far to the side when mounted. And yes the 3mm is probably to thick but I figured if I moved it to far I could always shim it, as it turned out the 3mm worked perfect.
Here is a pic of the bike with the fatbob trees etc
The caliper was machined using my measurements to center it over the rotor. It needed to be machined as it was to far to the side when mounted. And yes the 3mm is probably to thick but I figured if I moved it to far I could always shim it, as it turned out the 3mm worked perfect.
Here is a pic of the bike with the fatbob trees etc
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Road Master
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From: Belle River Ontario
Hi, just went out and measured fork cap to fork cap, center to center on the caps and it measures out at 10”
i call all my buddy who did the trees and he said he used an old wideglide set he had and added the tabs for the tins etc so I am wrong calling them full custom, but rather modified....he said he doesn’t know what they were off but he used the fat bob trees as reference and other then the extra tabs he added, they were the same size.
i call all my buddy who did the trees and he said he used an old wideglide set he had and added the tabs for the tins etc so I am wrong calling them full custom, but rather modified....he said he doesn’t know what they were off but he used the fat bob trees as reference and other then the extra tabs he added, they were the same size.
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Road Master
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From: Belle River Ontario
Probably, my measurement skills are suspect. Not complaining as the trees looked and worked perfectly for my application, but it does make me wonder where they came from....
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From: Nor Cal
Ok, so 9-7/8" (your 10") ... with Touring Sliders
And this kinda cross threading with your other thread ...
You can use a Stock Touring laced spoke 16" or 17" (or 18" for that matter, harder to find though) Front wheel with appropriate spacers (and really should be able to go back to a NON milled caliper) and everything should line-up ... ESPECIALLY being a single Caliper.
BTW, about this wide glide width i'm going on about ... would you consider a FL Hertiage Softail a wide glide? (hint: most people would) ... well, they are slightly narrower. IIRC about 9-1/2"
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And this kinda cross threading with your other thread ...
You can use a Stock Touring laced spoke 16" or 17" (or 18" for that matter, harder to find though) Front wheel with appropriate spacers (and really should be able to go back to a NON milled caliper) and everything should line-up ... ESPECIALLY being a single Caliper.
BTW, about this wide glide width i'm going on about ... would you consider a FL Hertiage Softail a wide glide? (hint: most people would) ... well, they are slightly narrower. IIRC about 9-1/2"
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From: Sandy Eggo's North County
I had the "Diamond" pattern spokes on both my HD's in the late 1990's. (FXD & FLHRI)
Here's a pic of some of the spokes for a 16" wheel.
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