180 wide tire kit issue solved
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
Not a real great comparo pic since the bikes are at different angles, but you get the point.
160 on the left 180 on the right
Now they both have 180s!
160 on the left 180 on the right
Now they both have 180s!
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From: the Vegas
RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
ORIGINAL: Mascman
People have been running the 180 without buying the kit for some time now.
I believe if you do a search, you will find that this was concluded in 2006.
People have been running the 180 without buying the kit for some time now.
I believe if you do a search, you will find that this was concluded in 2006.
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
Yes there have been a lot of other posts on the subject but there's no harm in re-posting information and questions on this subject it to keep others informed.
Regarding the tyres I did some research on this topic a while back and here's the deal.
The SE 180 tyre is built for a 4.5" wheel rim which my 06 superglide custom has, I'm not sure about the 07's and 08's. None of the other 180's that I could find were, they all have a minimum rim size specified of 5". The tyre expert I asked about thissaid that putting these other 180's on a rim that is too small would mis-shape the cross-sectional profile of the tyre. To what degree, if any though I don't know, and plenty of people have done this without an issue.
Also, if you go with a 180/55 it does change the diameter of the wheel slighlty by reducing it (The kit comes with a 180/60). Theoretically this should lower the effective gearing of the bike, and bring the speedo, tripmeter etc. out of calibration. Perhaps the thinner rim squeezes theprofile making it taller and pushes the diameter out so it is effectively thea similar profile?
The SE 180 is a cross-ply tyre also. The others are radials.
At that stage I was more worried about the tyre dismounting from the rim at speed as these radials are tubeless,so I chose to play it safe and go with a 170 Avon (the minimum rim size specified is 4.5 ")which I'm very happy with. I've not heard of anyone having any tyre dismout or other issues though so it's probably not an issue.
Regarding the tyres I did some research on this topic a while back and here's the deal.
The SE 180 tyre is built for a 4.5" wheel rim which my 06 superglide custom has, I'm not sure about the 07's and 08's. None of the other 180's that I could find were, they all have a minimum rim size specified of 5". The tyre expert I asked about thissaid that putting these other 180's on a rim that is too small would mis-shape the cross-sectional profile of the tyre. To what degree, if any though I don't know, and plenty of people have done this without an issue.
Also, if you go with a 180/55 it does change the diameter of the wheel slighlty by reducing it (The kit comes with a 180/60). Theoretically this should lower the effective gearing of the bike, and bring the speedo, tripmeter etc. out of calibration. Perhaps the thinner rim squeezes theprofile making it taller and pushes the diameter out so it is effectively thea similar profile?
The SE 180 is a cross-ply tyre also. The others are radials.
At that stage I was more worried about the tyre dismounting from the rim at speed as these radials are tubeless,so I chose to play it safe and go with a 170 Avon (the minimum rim size specified is 4.5 ")which I'm very happy with. I've not heard of anyone having any tyre dismout or other issues though so it's probably not an issue.
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
No I didn't change the front although I should have and that will happen soon. From memory it I will have to go to a slighlty larger front tyre with the Avons as they didn't have a perfect match.
I've done about 3000 miles on the Avon and I like it. The wear seems fine. One thing with them though, I've been warned to keep them at a high pressure, as apparently they have a tendancy to blow sidewalls at low pressure. I keep mine @ 41 psi.
I've done about 3000 miles on the Avon and I like it. The wear seems fine. One thing with them though, I've been warned to keep them at a high pressure, as apparently they have a tendancy to blow sidewalls at low pressure. I keep mine @ 41 psi.
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
Well it certainly is good to see some "traffic" on this mod. I posted this info becauseas like "Iwant1" says it is "a commonly talked about issue".. but my thinking is also on two other issues... 1) the "search engine" on this site to actually search for stuff (waterman)is very hit and miss at best. 2) there are new riders joining or reading this forum every week.. what that number might be would only be a guess on my part, ergo this being a popular mod for us Dyna guys.
All the info that not only I post, but what all ofmy other "Dyna brothers" post here, someone else may find enormously helpful in making a good decision. Thanks to all who posted.
All the info that not only I post, but what all ofmy other "Dyna brothers" post here, someone else may find enormously helpful in making a good decision. Thanks to all who posted.
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
ORIGINAL: DyNaMc
Tried search but whats a tyre? Used this post-thanks for the info
Tried search but whats a tyre? Used this post-thanks for the info
I normally try to use the US spelling for words that are spelt differently to avoid confusion, but that one slipped through.
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RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
What about this Avon 180: http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcyc.../pdf/storm.pdf ???
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From: the Vegas
RE: 180 wide tire kit issue solved
ORIGINAL: Frank Castle
1) the "search engine" on this site to actually search for stuff (waterman)is very hit and miss at best.
1) the "search engine" on this site to actually search for stuff (waterman)is very hit and miss at best.
just make sure you set the "options". set the search terms in "body and subject" .
just "subject" will weed out a lot of BS
and keeping people informed is one thing, claiming to have "solved" the problem is quite another.