Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
there are very few brands of good tools anymore. even some craftsman are not that great anymore. a lot of china junk tools are out there. buyer beware.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
ORIGINAL: carmencip
If I recall, the derby cover use #27 Torx. It is sort of a bastard size. Most Torx sets don't have #27 and jump right to a #30. First time I changed my primary oil I stripped out the bolt head, I mean really bad. I used a hand impact driver with a #30 to get it out. That impact driver has gotten me out of more jams then I can remember.
If I recall, the derby cover use #27 Torx. It is sort of a bastard size. Most Torx sets don't have #27 and jump right to a #30. First time I changed my primary oil I stripped out the bolt head, I mean really bad. I used a hand impact driver with a #30 to get it out. That impact driver has gotten me out of more jams then I can remember.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
In reference to GMAN, what are the specifications for the chrome, Allen-head bolts that can be used to replace the Torx screws that hold the derby cover? (ie. length, thread pitch & type).
Thanks,
Richard
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Richard
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
I had some clutch problems on the road and I ended up stripping out one of those bastards in a parking lot. I had to drill it out once I got towed home. I put hex bolts in mine, but then when I chaged to a different cover I used the included star bolts...I'm probably going to go back to the hex bolts though.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
I spend no more to ten minutes changing mine using this tool
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
Fortunately (apparently), I didn't have any
trouble with mine. No loctite and I don't use
it on the reinstall. Torque to specs and should
be okay. Use good tools, Snap-on preferred
but have some Craftsmen that are okay too.
trouble with mine. No loctite and I don't use
it on the reinstall. Torque to specs and should
be okay. Use good tools, Snap-on preferred
but have some Craftsmen that are okay too.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
In reference to GMAN, what are the specifications for the chrome, Allen-head bolts that can be used to replace the Torx screws that hold the derby cover? (ie. length, thread pitch & type).
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
ORIGINAL: FXDC Rider
I believe the stock bolt dimensions are 1/4 20 x 5/8...someone else wanna confirm this?
In reference to GMAN, what are the specifications for the chrome, Allen-head bolts that can be used to replace the Torx screws that hold the derby cover? (ie. length, thread pitch & type).
I think you're probably right on the size. I just took one of the old torx bolts and washer down the Ace Hardware, and matched them up with some chrome allen head bolts and washers.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
I think you're probably right on the size. I just took one of the old torx bolts and washer down the Ace Hardware, and matched them up with some chrome allen head bolts and washers.
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RE: Ever snap a bit on the derby cover?
ORIGINAL: FXDC Rider
Today I went to Autozone to get a star socket set for replacing my derby cover. I bought a Great Neck 9-piece set & as I attempted to remove the first bolt I snapped the tip of the socket bit right off inside the bolt. Luckily my buddy was able to remove what was left of the bit head inside the bolt without damaging anything else, but couldn't believe it snapped off that easily? Also surprised as to just how little of the amount of bit the derby cover bolts accept (barely any of the bit head at all!)? This is a new bike & I'm pretty sure this derby cover has never been removed before i.e.,...someone else locktite'n the hell out of it? I'm going to return the socket set tomorrow for another one; probabaly different brand too!...this ever happen to anyone else?
Today I went to Autozone to get a star socket set for replacing my derby cover. I bought a Great Neck 9-piece set & as I attempted to remove the first bolt I snapped the tip of the socket bit right off inside the bolt. Luckily my buddy was able to remove what was left of the bit head inside the bolt without damaging anything else, but couldn't believe it snapped off that easily? Also surprised as to just how little of the amount of bit the derby cover bolts accept (barely any of the bit head at all!)? This is a new bike & I'm pretty sure this derby cover has never been removed before i.e.,...someone else locktite'n the hell out of it? I'm going to return the socket set tomorrow for another one; probabaly different brand too!...this ever happen to anyone else?
Yeah, popped the end off a #27 craftsman torx.
Like some others here, once I got the sumbitches out, I replaced them with allen button heads.