tmax 6th gear lite
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tmax 6th gear lite
To all my fellow Tmax owners whose 6th gear indicator doesn't lite. I contacted Zippers and they sent me a Word doc with instructions on how to correct the 6th gear indicator not working. If you have the basic settings Final Drive Ratio of 87 and Gear 6 Min TPS of 40, adjust your FDR lower 1 step at a time up to -5 (82). This should correct the lite. I went -1 (86), works like a champ! Hope this helps!
If the 6th gear indicator light fails to operate, you must confirm or adjust the settings for Final Drive Ratio [/b]and Gear 6 Min Tps[/b] in the Basic Settings [/b]window and/or load the current Firmware in the ECM.
In order for the 6th gear Indicator light to operate you must have version 4.3 firmware or later in the ECM. Otherwise, perform a firmware upgrade. If version 4.3 or later is already loaded in the module you may reload it to confirm that it was properly installed.
Then, while linked to the module, verify the settings listed below and click “Write Basic Settings[/b]”. It is advised to erase and then re-enter the values before “writing”.
Standard settings are;
Final Drive Ratio = 87
Gear 6 Min TPS = 40.
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Mike
If the 6th gear indicator light fails to operate, you must confirm or adjust the settings for Final Drive Ratio [/b]and Gear 6 Min Tps[/b] in the Basic Settings [/b]window and/or load the current Firmware in the ECM.
In order for the 6th gear Indicator light to operate you must have version 4.3 firmware or later in the ECM. Otherwise, perform a firmware upgrade. If version 4.3 or later is already loaded in the module you may reload it to confirm that it was properly installed.
Then, while linked to the module, verify the settings listed below and click “Write Basic Settings[/b]”. It is advised to erase and then re-enter the values before “writing”.
Standard settings are;
Final Drive Ratio = 87
Gear 6 Min TPS = 40.
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Mike
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
ORIGINAL: speedjunkie
To all my fellow Tmax owners whose 6th gear indicator doesn't lite. I contacted Zippers and they sent me a Word doc with instructions on how to correct the 6th gear indicator not working. If you have the basic settings Final Drive Ratio of 87 and Gear 6 Min TPS of 40, adjust your FDR lower 1 step at a time up to -5 (82). This should correct the lite. I went -1 (86), works like a champ! Hope this helps!
If the 6th gear indicator light fails to operate, you must confirm or adjust the settings for Final Drive Ratio [/b]and Gear 6 Min Tps[/b] in the Basic Settings [/b]window and/or load the current Firmware in the ECM.
In order for the 6th gear Indicator light to operate you must have version 4.3 firmware or later in the ECM. Otherwise, perform a firmware upgrade. If version 4.3 or later is already loaded in the module you may reload it to confirm that it was properly installed.
Then, while linked to the module, verify the settings listed below and click “Write Basic Settings[/b]”. It is advised to erase and then re-enter the values before “writing”.
Standard settings are;
Final Drive Ratio = 87
Gear 6 Min TPS = 40.
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Mike
To all my fellow Tmax owners whose 6th gear indicator doesn't lite. I contacted Zippers and they sent me a Word doc with instructions on how to correct the 6th gear indicator not working. If you have the basic settings Final Drive Ratio of 87 and Gear 6 Min TPS of 40, adjust your FDR lower 1 step at a time up to -5 (82). This should correct the lite. I went -1 (86), works like a champ! Hope this helps!
If the 6th gear indicator light fails to operate, you must confirm or adjust the settings for Final Drive Ratio [/b]and Gear 6 Min Tps[/b] in the Basic Settings [/b]window and/or load the current Firmware in the ECM.
In order for the 6th gear Indicator light to operate you must have version 4.3 firmware or later in the ECM. Otherwise, perform a firmware upgrade. If version 4.3 or later is already loaded in the module you may reload it to confirm that it was properly installed.
Then, while linked to the module, verify the settings listed below and click “Write Basic Settings[/b]”. It is advised to erase and then re-enter the values before “writing”.
Standard settings are;
Final Drive Ratio = 87
Gear 6 Min TPS = 40.
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Mike
Thanks but all that info was on the setup sheet that come with the TM ! Got's to read the directions 1st.
Hope you checked the closed llop box and hooked the auto tune cord up too.
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
ORIGINAL: cardboard
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Thanks but all that info was on the setup sheet that come with the TM ! Got's to read the directions 1st.
Hope you checked the closed llop box and hooked the auto tune cord up too.
If the light still fails to operate, the TPS signal on your motorcycle may be out of range for the light to function. Therefore lower the value in the Final Drive Ratio[/b] window gradually, in increments of 1 to as much as -5 change (or 82), then road test to confirm the light operation.
Thanks but all that info was on the setup sheet that come with the TM ! Got's to read the directions 1st.
Hope you checked the closed llop box and hooked the auto tune cord up too.
Cardboard,
Actually the 87 and 40 are in the instructions, but my instructions didn't include the up to -5 on the FDR. Besides, I thought it might be fairly new since their Word Doc wasdated 7-23-07 rev 3. Thought I might be able to help someone out, guess you know it all already tho.
Update, I just uploaded the latest download for the FXD, and guess what, they have the FDR set at 84! Hmm, go figure? Drexor,
I saw your post above, I'm going to load that map and give it a try, even tho I'm pretty happy with the map loaded now. Thanks.
Mike
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
Hey speedjunkie, bought my thundermax about 5 months ago. Bought another one about 2 months ago.The speedo infowas in both of them.
I just feel a lot of people ain't reading enough on the setup instructions. Trying to swing it by playing with the computer.
I've talked to Pete and a couple of other dudes at Zippers. Got to see my builder set up my thundermax. They say people don't take the time to read the instructions before they start. I'm still learning too. I tend to forgitalso. I had to be reminded that when you disconnectthe batteryyou have to reinitalize my bike. Dang Blood Pressure medicine.
Wish I knew what my builder knows he's a advanced tuner with a dyno machine. But I'm pretty Lazy !
Remember this too. Low restriction exaust are going to let yer bike pop on deacceleration. Watch yer AFr's and check yer plugs.
I just feel a lot of people ain't reading enough on the setup instructions. Trying to swing it by playing with the computer.
I've talked to Pete and a couple of other dudes at Zippers. Got to see my builder set up my thundermax. They say people don't take the time to read the instructions before they start. I'm still learning too. I tend to forgitalso. I had to be reminded that when you disconnectthe batteryyou have to reinitalize my bike. Dang Blood Pressure medicine.
Wish I knew what my builder knows he's a advanced tuner with a dyno machine. But I'm pretty Lazy !
Remember this too. Low restriction exaust are going to let yer bike pop on deacceleration. Watch yer AFr's and check yer plugs.
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
ORIGINAL: cardboard
Hey speedjunkie, bought my thundermax about 5 months ago. Bought another one about 2 months ago.The speedo infowas in both of them.
I just feel a lot of people ain't reading enough on the setup instructions. Trying to swing it by playing with the computer.
I've talked to Pete and a couple of other dudes at Zippers. Got to see my builder set up my thundermax. They say people don't take the time to read the instructions before they start. I'm still learning too. I tend to forgitalso. I had to be reminded that when you disconnectthe batteryyou have to reinitalize my bike. Dang Blood Pressure medicine.
Wish I knew what my builder knows he's a advanced tuner with a dyno machine. But I'm pretty Lazy !
Remember this too. Low restriction exaust are going to let yer bike pop on deacceleration. Watch yer AFr's and check yer plugs.
Hey speedjunkie, bought my thundermax about 5 months ago. Bought another one about 2 months ago.The speedo infowas in both of them.
I just feel a lot of people ain't reading enough on the setup instructions. Trying to swing it by playing with the computer.
I've talked to Pete and a couple of other dudes at Zippers. Got to see my builder set up my thundermax. They say people don't take the time to read the instructions before they start. I'm still learning too. I tend to forgitalso. I had to be reminded that when you disconnectthe batteryyou have to reinitalize my bike. Dang Blood Pressure medicine.
Wish I knew what my builder knows he's a advanced tuner with a dyno machine. But I'm pretty Lazy !
Remember this too. Low restriction exaust are going to let yer bike pop on deacceleration. Watch yer AFr's and check yer plugs.
Cardboard,
I just bought my TM about a month ago. Being an A&P mechanic for Lear for the past 10 years, I tend to read directions first. And when all else fails, read them again. Last resort is to ask someone else. I won't learn anything if I just ask someone else how to do it. It is truely amazing how much you can learn just by re-reading the same thing again. My TM instructions just didn't include the "adjustment" for the the FDR tho. I didn't have hardly any decel popping either, occasional, but nothing major. I made double sure to plug in the AT module as well as check the approriate boxes. I uploaded the new tune a little bit ago, it's pretty close to the same, except 6th gear lite comes on with out additional tweaking. I've only got about 500 miles on it so far, and 3 different tunes to get close. I think from here it'll be put a few miles on it, then start tweaking on the timing in the mid range. All 3 tunes have felt soft there, so I think improvement is to be made. Later!
Mike
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Sounds like with all yer certification you should be pretty well prepared for setting it up. On a dyna, where it shows to cut the fuse bracket holder out. I used a 18v skill saw and cut it horizontal and cut the rounded part deeper and took a 18volt sawsall and vut the vertical part out making it easier to cut the material out. Don't know if you had to do this or not. My builder was grinding it out. I dreamed this up while trying to go to sleep.
Hope you did't put any antiseige on yer oxygen sensors. Screw them in dry. Drive the bike, drive it at all different speeds it needs to read the rpms and the throttle position sensor to tune. Also download the SmartlinkIV tuning mauual from www.thunder-max.com
its about 110 pages it might help some.
Sounds like you got everything under control oH! Glad there are other people taking the plunge with the TM. Its well worth the money.
When I don't do something over and over at my age I tend to forgit. Then I call my builder. But since I installed my TM and put the base map in it has done everything itself even better than the sert did with dyno time. Hope everything works out like you want it on yer bike dude. I truely like the TM. Glad I was turned on to it by my builder.
Hope you did't put any antiseige on yer oxygen sensors. Screw them in dry. Drive the bike, drive it at all different speeds it needs to read the rpms and the throttle position sensor to tune. Also download the SmartlinkIV tuning mauual from www.thunder-max.com
its about 110 pages it might help some.
Sounds like you got everything under control oH! Glad there are other people taking the plunge with the TM. Its well worth the money.
When I don't do something over and over at my age I tend to forgit. Then I call my builder. But since I installed my TM and put the base map in it has done everything itself even better than the sert did with dyno time. Hope everything works out like you want it on yer bike dude. I truely like the TM. Glad I was turned on to it by my builder.
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
ORIGINAL: cardboard
Sounds like with all yer certification you should be pretty well prepared for setting it up. On a dyna, where it shows to cut the fuse bracket holder out. I used a 18v skill saw and cut it horizontal and cut the rounded part deeper and took a 18volt sawsall and vut the vertical part out making it easier to cut the material out. Don't know if you had to do this or not. My builder was grinding it out. I dreamed this up while trying to go to sleep.
Hope you did't put any antiseige on yer oxygen sensors. Screw them in dry. Drive the bike, drive it at all different speeds it needs to read the rpms and the throttle position sensor to tune. Also download the SmartlinkIV tuning mauual from www.thunder-max.com
its about 110 pages it might help some.
Sounds like you got everything under control oH! Glad there are other people taking the plunge with the TM. Its well worth the money.
When I don't do something over and over at my age I tend to forgit. Then I call my builder. But since I installed my TM and put the base map in it has done everything itself even better than the sert did with dyno time. Hope everything works out like you want it on yer bike dude. I truely like the TM. Glad I was turned on to it by my builder.
Sounds like with all yer certification you should be pretty well prepared for setting it up. On a dyna, where it shows to cut the fuse bracket holder out. I used a 18v skill saw and cut it horizontal and cut the rounded part deeper and took a 18volt sawsall and vut the vertical part out making it easier to cut the material out. Don't know if you had to do this or not. My builder was grinding it out. I dreamed this up while trying to go to sleep.
Hope you did't put any antiseige on yer oxygen sensors. Screw them in dry. Drive the bike, drive it at all different speeds it needs to read the rpms and the throttle position sensor to tune. Also download the SmartlinkIV tuning mauual from www.thunder-max.com
its about 110 pages it might help some.
Sounds like you got everything under control oH! Glad there are other people taking the plunge with the TM. Its well worth the money.
When I don't do something over and over at my age I tend to forgit. Then I call my builder. But since I installed my TM and put the base map in it has done everything itself even better than the sert did with dyno time. Hope everything works out like you want it on yer bike dude. I truely like the TM. Glad I was turned on to it by my builder.
Cool!! I actually used my W/S grinder from work. Small pencil grinder, looks like/sounds like dentist drill. Worked like a champ!
The guys at Zippers told me to drive it at all RPM's so the AT could see it and adjust as required. As to the O2 sensors, mine actually came with anit-sieze on them right out of the box from Tmax. I checked to make sure it didn't go all the way to the end of the threads, and put them in. Hopefully I don't have a problem.
I wish I had a great builder here like it sounds yours is. I'd be picking his brain ALL the time! Hanging out and just trying to absorb as much as possible! Yeah, I'm liking the TM so far. Much more complicated than say the SERT, or PCIII, but well worth it IMO. Funny thing is, a guy I work with thinks the TM is too expensive. But, he's already put in a $200 WB O2 sensor in the rear cylinder, most likely going to the same for the front. He's also talking A/C and pipe. With all that, he's going to have to put in a tuner as well. He could have bought a TM with AT for the same price, and NOT had to spend the money on the dyno tune to boot! Oh well, I just chuckle and let him "think" he's got the better setup.
Later!
Mike
Mike
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
Know you've heard on bikes before the 06 with 02 sensors you can have bungs welded in to accept the sensors. Before the TM I had a sert and paid for 4 hrs dyno time. They had it running rich enough that it made my bike not run right. We found carbon buildup on the heads and pistons when we tore the top end down.
I drove 700 miles to back to my builder. Pulled my bike on a 6x12 utility trailer.
He's worked at http://www.accurate-engineering.com/ just to name a few places not to mention he has sold and installed zippers products since1984. He has told me a lot of things, but I tend to forgit cause I don't do it all the time. He is a advanced tuner with T-Max. He works on computers with Buell too. He pretty much has his act together and builds to yer expectations... I'd go as far to say he's probaly one of the top 5 tuners in my area on what he does. He just built a 96cu to a 107 cu bike that's hot !.
I drove 700 miles to back to my builder. Pulled my bike on a 6x12 utility trailer.
He's worked at http://www.accurate-engineering.com/ just to name a few places not to mention he has sold and installed zippers products since1984. He has told me a lot of things, but I tend to forgit cause I don't do it all the time. He is a advanced tuner with T-Max. He works on computers with Buell too. He pretty much has his act together and builds to yer expectations... I'd go as far to say he's probaly one of the top 5 tuners in my area on what he does. He just built a 96cu to a 107 cu bike that's hot !.
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RE: tmax 6th gear lite
I will post it here too. Heard from somebody some things on the Tmax will be Blue tooth capable pretty soon. Now I got to learn someting else. Wonder if this will fix the problem where I have a siren and it made me unplug the cord to my Tmax. Hmmmm !