Transmission Drain Stripped
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
NO NO NO. Do not re tap. Koppsteryou are right. The moco has drilled some 07 pans wrong. Its a warranty issue. If you know your stealer, and he is cool. Bring it in and tell 'em.
If he's not...... Just go get all 3 holes changed at the stealer. Let them cross thread it
. And wah-lah new pan! Harley and some stealers are funny about this particulaar issue. BUT ARE AWARE OF IT. So let them cross thread it.
If he's not...... Just go get all 3 holes changed at the stealer. Let them cross thread it
. And wah-lah new pan! Harley and some stealers are funny about this particulaar issue. BUT ARE AWARE OF IT. So let them cross thread it.
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
ORIGINAL: Varmint
NO NO NO. Do not re tap. Koppsteryou are right. The moco has drilled some 07 pans wrong. Its a warranty issue. If you know your stealer, and he is cool. Bring it in and tell 'em.
If he's not...... Just go get all 3 holes changed at the stealer. Let them cross thread it. And wah-lah new pan! Harley and some stealers are funny about this particulaar issue. BUT ARE AWARE OF IT. So let them cross thread it.
NO NO NO. Do not re tap. Koppsteryou are right. The moco has drilled some 07 pans wrong. Its a warranty issue. If you know your stealer, and he is cool. Bring it in and tell 'em.
If he's not...... Just go get all 3 holes changed at the stealer. Let them cross thread it
. And wah-lah new pan! Harley and some stealers are funny about this particulaar issue. BUT ARE AWARE OF IT. So let them cross thread it.
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
I dont advise telling the stealer UNLESS you know him. (as in your cool with him) As they can always say its your fault. if they are cool, they will do it for you. Hey, its no money outta their pocket. They make money on it. Just not the moco. they pay the stealer to fix it. my source is my stealer. itIS a waranty issue. The reason y nobody hears about it is cause its not a recall.
What happens is guys cross thread, think its their fault* and either re tap, time sert or bring it to the stealer who dont care where the money comes from to fix it. Its actually better for them to have you pay for it. If your stealers cool tell him what happened.If not, have all three holes changed at the stealer.
* you need to be real carefull putting plugs back in. Lightly thread untill the oring makes contact, then torque down. If you encounter ANY resistance b4 that, back off and try again, or clean the hole and plug until it sits good. (which sould be done b4 attempting to plug it up any way)
What happens is guys cross thread, think its their fault* and either re tap, time sert or bring it to the stealer who dont care where the money comes from to fix it. Its actually better for them to have you pay for it. If your stealers cool tell him what happened.If not, have all three holes changed at the stealer.
* you need to be real carefull putting plugs back in. Lightly thread untill the oring makes contact, then torque down. If you encounter ANY resistance b4 that, back off and try again, or clean the hole and plug until it sits good. (which sould be done b4 attempting to plug it up any way)
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
Rick, who do you deal with over there at Alamo City??
mud
ORIGINAL: Koppster
Okay, I've got all my fingers and other assorted appendages crossed, I believe I have it fixed.
As I said earlier, I was able to run the right size tap through the drain hole but the old boogered plugs would not tighten.
I installed a new drain plug with a little teflon tape on the threads and got a good 15ft lbs torque on it. I pushed it a little further and it tightened some more with no problem. I'm going to leave it like that and keep a very close eye on it.
I'll probably drain the tranny after a few miles to make sure there are no metal shavings in there. If it acts up again, I'm taking it to a machine shop for the helicoil. If Mud is reading, probably to Robby on Eisenhauer.
Thoughts?
Rick
Okay, I've got all my fingers and other assorted appendages crossed, I believe I have it fixed.
As I said earlier, I was able to run the right size tap through the drain hole but the old boogered plugs would not tighten.
I installed a new drain plug with a little teflon tape on the threads and got a good 15ft lbs torque on it. I pushed it a little further and it tightened some more with no problem. I'm going to leave it like that and keep a very close eye on it.
I'll probably drain the tranny after a few miles to make sure there are no metal shavings in there. If it acts up again, I'm taking it to a machine shop for the helicoil. If Mud is reading, probably to Robby on Eisenhauer.
Thoughts?
Rick
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From: San Antonio TX
RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
Good Afternoon Mud,
The only guy I know by name at Alamo is Greg in parts, seems to be a pretty nice guy.
I spend as much or more money with Doug at Gruene HD.
If I continue to have problems with this drain plug, I think I'll just get a new pan. Gruene gave me a price $88 for a new one, I can get it for $70 through Chicago HD and it looks like about an hour's work. That's probably as cheap or cheaper than trying to repair the one I got (if it's broke).
Rick
PS: Still haven't forgotten your offer or the Tip Top, been working more than I should.
The only guy I know by name at Alamo is Greg in parts, seems to be a pretty nice guy.
I spend as much or more money with Doug at Gruene HD.
If I continue to have problems with this drain plug, I think I'll just get a new pan. Gruene gave me a price $88 for a new one, I can get it for $70 through Chicago HD and it looks like about an hour's work. That's probably as cheap or cheaper than trying to repair the one I got (if it's broke).
Rick
PS: Still haven't forgotten your offer or the Tip Top, been working more than I should.
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
ORIGINAL: Koppster
Good Afternoon Mud,
The only guy I know by name at Alamo is Greg in parts, seems to be a pretty nice guy.
I spend as much or more money with Doug at Gruene HD.
If I continue to have problems with this drain plug, I think I'll just get a new pan. Gruene gave me a price $88 for a new one, I can get it for $70 through Chicago HD and it looks like about an hour's work. That's probably as cheap or cheaper than trying to repair the one I got (if it's broke).
Rick
PS: Still haven't forgotten your offer or the Tip Top, been working more than I should.
Good Afternoon Mud,
The only guy I know by name at Alamo is Greg in parts, seems to be a pretty nice guy.
I spend as much or more money with Doug at Gruene HD.
If I continue to have problems with this drain plug, I think I'll just get a new pan. Gruene gave me a price $88 for a new one, I can get it for $70 through Chicago HD and it looks like about an hour's work. That's probably as cheap or cheaper than trying to repair the one I got (if it's broke).
Rick
PS: Still haven't forgotten your offer or the Tip Top, been working more than I should.
Started out to fire up the sickle
when I remembered they are closed on Mondays.
I don't know who's out at Gruene,except forPaul Ray.
He would be the man to discuss tuning and such, out there.
At Alamo City, this issue I would recommend to ask for Ruben
in the Service Dept, I dont know many there either.
Hector at the Parts Counter is extremely helpful.
I mostly deal at Javelina for my needs.
Many good and knowledgeable folks out there.
If you do decide to swap out the pan,
you may want to consider instead,
just pull yours and bring it to me.
I'll helicoil it for a burger.
mud
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From: San Antonio TX
RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
Mud,
I'm getting hungry too my friend.
How hard is the oil pan to drop? Can I do it in the garage?When I look at the bike and the manual, it looks like no big deal. Then, I think, this is a Harley and everything I thought was easy turned out......
Thanks,
Rick
I'm getting hungry too my friend.
How hard is the oil pan to drop? Can I do it in the garage?When I look at the bike and the manual, it looks like no big deal. Then, I think, this is a Harley and everything I thought was easy turned out......
Thanks,
Rick
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
ORIGINAL: Koppster
Mud,
I'm getting hungry too my friend.
How hard is the oil pan to drop?
Can I do it in the garage?
When I look at the bike and the manual, it looks like no big deal.
Then, I think, this is a Harley and
everything I thought was easy turned out......
Thanks,
Rick
Mud,
I'm getting hungry too my friend.
How hard is the oil pan to drop?
Can I do it in the garage?
When I look at the bike and the manual, it looks like no big deal.
Then, I think, this is a Harley and
everything I thought was easy turned out......
Thanks,
Rick
Rick, it is a pretty straightforward operation.
10 3/16" allen heads.
Hardest part is working and seeing under there.
I put the kickstand up and lean the machine
way over on 6x6 blocks.
There is a wire harness to move out of the way
for the fours bolts along the pipe side of the oil pan.
mud
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RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
ORIGINAL: Halfbuck
I did the same thing during my first oil change. I was following the manual exactly, but the torque wrench never "clicked" and the next thing I knew, I was free spinning. Crap!
I also used an oversized, self tapping plug from an auto parts store. (after flushing the pan a few times).
Good Luck!
I did the same thing during my first oil change. I was following the manual exactly, but the torque wrench never "clicked" and the next thing I knew, I was free spinning. Crap!
I also used an oversized, self tapping plug from an auto parts store. (after flushing the pan a few times).
Good Luck!
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Tourer
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From: San Antonio TX
RE: Transmission Drain Stripped
Mud,
I gave it a close look last night and there is only one screw blocked by the frame (right side). I believe I can get to it with a long ball-end allen stock. I
'm going to stop in at Napa and get an oversize self-tapper tonight just to get me through the next week or two and as soon as I get a chance, I'll pull the pan and come see you. Better to have it off I think, shavings and all that.
Big Thanks Amigo,
Rick
I gave it a close look last night and there is only one screw blocked by the frame (right side). I believe I can get to it with a long ball-end allen stock. I
'm going to stop in at Napa and get an oversize self-tapper tonight just to get me through the next week or two and as soon as I get a chance, I'll pull the pan and come see you. Better to have it off I think, shavings and all that.
Big Thanks Amigo,
Rick