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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaster
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I just looked in my 06 service manual and it shows no dowel pins.

The inner primary cover they showed me at the shop (not mine) had no dowel pins.

that is what I am saying -

the later models have alignment dowels.

(the 06s have many failures of the component)

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mudpuddle
that is what I am saying -

the later models have alignment dowels.

(the 06s have many failures of the component)

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OK I gotcha now. From what the mechanic told me I was under the impression that the earlier Dynas had them as well. The reason he gave for taking them out is noted in my first post. My brother has an old shovelhead and I've helped him pull the tranny in that. It diffinately had pins.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KBFXDLI
There are 2 other theories out there that I am checking on:

1. The assembler covered the oil galley that feeds the bearing with the wrong snap retaining ring orientation and starved the bearing of lubricant

2. The bearing assembly was not heat treated (hardened) deep enough at the supplier.

I'll add the responses when I get them.
Any idea on how they install them in the factory? Are they pressed on or do they heat them up, then press them on?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6 Formula
Any idea on how they install them in the factory? Are they pressed on or do they heat them up, then press them on?
the bearing is pressed into the inner primary, and there is a proper orientaion to the installation for proper lubrication.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jamman
the bearing is pressed into the inner primary, and there is a proper orientaion to the installation for proper lubrication.
Look here regarding the retaining ring: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/751162-post20.html


Is the inner bearing race failing first? I was wondering if it is heated at the factory during assembly or is it just pressed on?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Even if they heated it to the standard method of 350* it wouldn't or shouldn't hurt the case hardening on the sleeve.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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I've heard that if you've had to replace this bearing once, it's likely that it will go again at regular intervals. If that is the case then misalignment looks to be the cause.

Anyone confirm this? I want to hear you say 'I replaced mine and had no further trouble'

I replaced mine at 8000 miles - snap ring was in correct position.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Ok,
I'm not a smart man so I have to ask this.
I've got 17,000+ on my 06 Street Bob right now.
I'm getting ready to replace the bearing for the first time, just because it was supposed happen at 15K (weather was to nice to put it in the shop)
I was planing on going ahead and have them do the 20K service at the same time.
1. Is there a need to still replace the bearing? The white letter states that replacement is no longer needed at 15K.
2. How do you know, besides shavings in the lube, that he bearing is going out?
I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing.
If you can help I thank you. If I don't have to put it in the dealer, I can/will do the 20K service myself.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MarineMike
Ok,
I'm not a smart man so I have to ask this.
I've got 17,000+ on my 06 Street Bob right now.
I'm getting ready to replace the bearing for the first time, just because it was supposed happen at 15K (weather was to nice to put it in the shop)
I was planing on going ahead and have them do the 20K service at the same time.
1. Is there a need to still replace the bearing? The white letter states that replacement is no longer needed at 15K.
2. How do you know, besides shavings in the lube, that he bearing is going out?
I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing.
If you can help I thank you. If I don't have to put it in the dealer, I can/will do the 20K service myself.

I'm not too smart either, but here's my take ( <.02 worth).

No need to change every 15K.

I had Had fluids changed at 5K and no shavings in oil.

Bearing went out 800 miles later at 5,800 miles.

Symptoms were noise in neutral with clutch out.

If I were you I'd leave the bearing alone.

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