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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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I have already hit up the search function and couldn't find info on spokes. So which spokes do I need to go from a narrow 19 to 21 while keeping my stock aluminum hub? Found some on ebay for a ?-99 sportster for cheap. Will those work? Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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You probably need to know how the long ones are for the sporty. Don't remember what size wheels they came with. Don't think it was a 21" frt.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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I just did that a couple weeks ago. I bought a rim, tube, spokes, Avon tire and rim strip from Jireh. All tolled it was about $200 delivered. You need special spokes. I chucked my reciept so I don't know the part number, but unlike the standard wide flange hub, you need whats called a staggered spoke kit. All that really means is a bunch of them are shorter than the rest as reqired by the narrow hub. The guy I talked to at Jireh new exactlly what I was talking about and what I needed. Sorry I can't hook you up with the part number off hand. Just remember, you DON'T want the standard 21 inch spoke set. Also, unless you can lace a rim, get a quote from the guy whose gonna do it before he does it. Prices vary wideley. I found a guy to do it for thirty five bucks and he did it in one day and did a really nice job.
 

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Thnanks guys. I do plan on lacing myself. May take a couple tries but I got more time tan money.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Also, consider springing for polished stainless spokes/nipples instead of just chrome. Spokes are hard enough to clean, it's worse when you're fighting rust too.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Redbeard's right about the S/S polished.
As far as the spokes go, you'll need what are called long and short -20 of each - which pertains to the length of the spoke at the bent end: 2 different lenghts from the bend to the head. The "long" spokes go over the "short" spokes. The standard lacing pattern is 1-over-4.
You shouldn't have to change the hub; if its the stock aluminum, have it polished. It looks fantastic laced with the S/S polished spokes.
What you'll need is spokes for a 21", and nipple oil (use it liberally), the standard drilled 40 hole 21" rim and some patience.
If you decide to cut the old spokes out, do it with wheel lying on it's side. Cut slowly (use bolt cutters). If you do that right, the next step is to take out each old spoke and replace it in the same postion with the new spoke; remember the shoulder lengths.
Whe you're done, get it trued!! You can't "eye-ball" it. Trust me on this.
Keep in mind that, at first, you'll feel like you're fighting to turn the bike due to the centrifigal force of the larger dyameter wheel. Don't worry about it too much; just ride it easy for a little bit and you'll get used to it.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lnrider
Redbeard's right about the S/S polished.
As far as the spokes go, you'll need what are called long and short -20 of each - which pertains to the length of the spoke at the bent end: 2 different lenghts from the bend to the head. The "long" spokes go over the "short" spokes. The standard lacing pattern is 1-over-4.
You shouldn't have to change the hub; if its the stock aluminum, have it polished. It looks fantastic laced with the S/S polished spokes.
What you'll need is spokes for a 21", and nipple oil (use it liberally), the standard drilled 40 hole 21" rim and some patience.
If you decide to cut the old spokes out, do it with wheel lying on it's side. Cut slowly (use bolt cutters). If you do that right, the next step is to take out each old spoke and replace it in the same postion with the new spoke; remember the shoulder lengths.
Whe you're done, get it trued!! You can't "eye-ball" it. Trust me on this.
Keep in mind that, at first, you'll feel like you're fighting to turn the bike due to the centrifigal force of the larger dyameter wheel. Don't worry about it too much; just ride it easy for a little bit and you'll get used to it.
Good luck.
roll on
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Thanks for the help. Any suggestions on where to get the spokes? Or even p/n's?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Thanks to every one who commented and to jmpancoast for the manual pages. Got the 21" rim laced to the hub and will begin truing tommorow. I did polish the hub and it looks sweet. I have the spokes installed loosely and about half look too long and the other half too short. Hopefully they will move enoough after truing to work.
 
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can someone help me out, as i'm following this post but have a related question.. have an 07 SB. want a polished SS set for the front and back.. had the bike for 2 years and the damn things are rusting... Where can I go for a good price on these?
And what can I expect to have someone do it for me.. Some dude told me that he would charge me about 650 bucks to take off the old ones, install the new, true, balance the wheel... ???
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jousley
can someone help me out, as i'm following this post but have a related question.. have an 07 SB. want a polished SS set for the front and back.. had the bike for 2 years and the damn things are rusting... Where can I go for a good price on these?
And what can I expect to have someone do it for me.. Some dude told me that he would charge me about 650 bucks to take off the old ones, install the new, true, balance the wheel... ???
thanks
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With spokes, as with many things, you get what you pay for. I learned the hard way. I bought chrome spokes from J&P Cycles on sale, and they sucked (thin chrome and rust). You buy cheap, you get ****.

Go through someone like Landmark, Buchanan, or hdwheels and pay for quality stainless spokes. If you can't afford them now, wait till you can.
 
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