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if you've got a 07 or up with 4.375 crank you can have your stock cylinders bored to get your 107ci. if your bike is older you can still go to 98ci. but to get a 107 on a pre 06 bike your cases will have to come apart and spigots bored. call scott at hillside cycle, they have pistons for a 107 that use stock bored cylinders.
Axtell actually just sells a piston, jug and gasket set. Its part number 200-300 For black. I believe it $1169.95 at least that is how much it was last year.
I am going to be buying this kit later this year for a winter build. Like it was said above, this is the best 107" on the market. The OP has a 03 so he needs to bore his cases to go 107" on a stock crank. I will warn you though. Have the crank trued and welded while it is out for case boring. Also make sure you do the timken bearing upgrade. Both will be needed to keep the bottom end together with a 107". I was told the 03's still have forged cranks, so its worth putting money into the stocker to save it.
Excuse the thread hijack, but I am researching a big bore kit also. What makes Axtell better than say the SE big bore kits or others? And then the next question is, is it worth the price difference?
For example I am watching a SE 103 kit on ebay that has jugs, pistons, rings, cams, and clutch spring for $550. No exchange.
No agenda or conclusion on my part, I ask to learn.
Excuse the thread hijack, but I am researching a big bore kit also. What makes Axtell better than say the SE big bore kits or others? And then the next question is, is it worth the price difference?
For example I am watching a SE 103 kit on ebay that has jugs, pistons, rings, cams, and clutch spring for $550. No exchange.
No agenda or conclusion on my part, I ask to learn.
Steve
good question i would like to know the break down also between both. jackyl
What makes Axtell better than say the SE big bore kits or others? And then the next question is, is it worth the price difference?
In the case of going to a 107" the Axtell cylinders are needed due to the amount of bore. They have a larger sleeve in them. They require the engine cases to be bored out to accept the larger cylinders.
If you want to go to a 95/103" you can have your cylinders bored out to 3 7/8". You don't need to get different cylinders. The SE ones are pretty much just bored out stockers. The stockers can even be bored out to 3.93" to get a 98"...Not sure what the total cubes are if you started with a 96" but I think it is around 107"
This is about what I paid...I can't remember
$150 cylinder bore
$150 true and weld crank
$250? timken bearing upgrade
What makes Axtell better than say the SE big bore kits or others? And then the next question is, is it worth the price difference?
Originally Posted by redrubicon2004
In the case of going to a 107" the Axtell cylinders are needed due to the amount of bore. They have a larger sleeve in them. They require the engine cases to be bored out to accept the larger cylinders.
Translated it means the cylinder walls are a hell of a lot thicker than stock or the SE ones. That means better heat transfer to the cooling fins and more effective base sealing surface so you wont have the hot spots and base gasket leakage problems that have plagued the SE motors.
The only barrels better than Axtell are Jims, but you need new cases for those since the head stud spread is wider. Are they worth it? You bet your *** if you plan on your motor staying together for any length of time.
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