Just installed lights on my engine guard
FXD2003RIDER......
The HD Fog Lamps dont come with grommets, since they're suppose to clamp onto the guards, and the wires run along the outside of the guards and secured with plastic ties. That's how mine are set up.
My Harley Dealer did use conduit, but it got pinched and flattened between the frame and metal that was on the bottom of my seat. Hard to explain. Anyway....they fixed it and all is fine now. But thanks. You're always so thorough. BTW, I forward your instructions to my Dealer regarding wiring to allow for using them with the HIGH beam. Thanks again.....
The HD Fog Lamps dont come with grommets, since they're suppose to clamp onto the guards, and the wires run along the outside of the guards and secured with plastic ties. That's how mine are set up.
My Harley Dealer did use conduit, but it got pinched and flattened between the frame and metal that was on the bottom of my seat. Hard to explain. Anyway....they fixed it and all is fine now. But thanks. You're always so thorough. BTW, I forward your instructions to my Dealer regarding wiring to allow for using them with the HIGH beam. Thanks again.....
The images come from the signal relocation instruction sheets.
Did you receive any feed back on my instructions from your dealer?
FXD2003Rider
Last edited by FXD2003Rider; Feb 18, 2010 at 04:47 PM.
Road Warrior
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From: West Branch, Michigan
Not yet. When I sent my service manager the email with my request and your instructions, I got a reply saying he would be out of the dealership until 2-19. So, he hasn't had the opportunity to see my email yet. I'll let you know what he says.....
Cruiser
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From: Granbury, Texas
Here are some wiring diagrams showing how the foglamp kit should be connected, according to H-D's mounting instructions (=DOT regulations).
In this way the fog lights as well as the aux lights stay on only with lowbeam(spliced to the yellow wire).
If you want them to work with high beam, splice (6) to the highbeam wire (on my 2003FXD it's the white wire).
If I understand well, you want them to work independently from high/low beam.
To achieve this result, splice (6) to the runing lights wire (see your manual for the color, on my 2003FXD it's the blue wire) or run the "unterminated wire" (6) (= wire to low beam in Fog Lamp Schematic) in the wiring harness back to the + on the battery or the aux fuse in the fuse box.
You can operate the switch (which comes with the kit) to activate the coil in the relay which will turn on or off the fog lights/aux lights.
I have connected the passing lights on my FXD2003 in the same way and replaced the stock switch from the kit for the handlebar mounted aux switch kit and the chrome switch cap kit.
FXD2003Rider
Here's a wiring diagram on how to wire aux lights using a relay:
Signal current from switch (86 ==> 85) activates coil; coil activates internal relay switch (30 ==> 87)
30 = + from battery (requires mim 2.5 mm2 wire)
87 = + to lamps (requires mim 2,5 mm2 wire)
86 = + from switch or headlight wire (to activate relay)
85 = ground
Here's an image of the l/h side switch kit on my FXD2003:
In this way the fog lights as well as the aux lights stay on only with lowbeam(spliced to the yellow wire).
If you want them to work with high beam, splice (6) to the highbeam wire (on my 2003FXD it's the white wire).
If I understand well, you want them to work independently from high/low beam.
To achieve this result, splice (6) to the runing lights wire (see your manual for the color, on my 2003FXD it's the blue wire) or run the "unterminated wire" (6) (= wire to low beam in Fog Lamp Schematic) in the wiring harness back to the + on the battery or the aux fuse in the fuse box.
You can operate the switch (which comes with the kit) to activate the coil in the relay which will turn on or off the fog lights/aux lights.
I have connected the passing lights on my FXD2003 in the same way and replaced the stock switch from the kit for the handlebar mounted aux switch kit and the chrome switch cap kit.
FXD2003Rider
Here's a wiring diagram on how to wire aux lights using a relay:
Signal current from switch (86 ==> 85) activates coil; coil activates internal relay switch (30 ==> 87)
30 = + from battery (requires mim 2.5 mm2 wire)
87 = + to lamps (requires mim 2,5 mm2 wire)
86 = + from switch or headlight wire (to activate relay)
85 = ground
Here's an image of the l/h side switch kit on my FXD2003:
Last edited by FXD2003Rider; Nov 9, 2011 at 07:10 AM.
If you really want to see, and be seen, try these:
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...icro-de-xenon/
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.p...icro-de-xenon/
Road Master
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From: In the Pacific Northwest, a few hours east of Seattle.
One reason why I liked the fog lights was that they were 55 watt lamps instead of the 35 watt lamps in the driving lights. Another was that the fog lights did a nice job of spreading the light out toward the sides of the road where the deer are - although you can aim your driving lamps out that far as well.
I'm not sure that there is a huge amount of difference in terms of how much light is thrown out with either option, but my fog lamps are wired to run with the high beam on, and with the high beam on the four bulbs together throw out a decent amount of light.
I added the brightstar bulbs and the Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp Kit, and while it probably isn't as bright as the HID headlamps it's way better than the stock set up:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/g...bmLocale=en_US
Between the dual bulb halogen headlamp and the 55 watt fog lights my lighting isn't perfect, but its a lot brighter than what it was originally. (I also found myself 'concerned' in a dark canyon on one moonless night, and after I survived that night I made improving my lighting situation into a top-level priority...)
I'm not sure that there is a huge amount of difference in terms of how much light is thrown out with either option, but my fog lamps are wired to run with the high beam on, and with the high beam on the four bulbs together throw out a decent amount of light.
I added the brightstar bulbs and the Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp Kit, and while it probably isn't as bright as the HID headlamps it's way better than the stock set up:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/g...bmLocale=en_US
Between the dual bulb halogen headlamp and the 55 watt fog lights my lighting isn't perfect, but its a lot brighter than what it was originally. (I also found myself 'concerned' in a dark canyon on one moonless night, and after I survived that night I made improving my lighting situation into a top-level priority...)
Road Master
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico
FWIW, I installed Kuryakan "bullet" lights on the engine guards before I made a 10 day
trip out Old 66 and I think they are OK, but not great. They do help, but the range is a lot
less than I'd hoped for. They just seem to throw a very general, poorly focused light.
At city speeds they're fine, but at 50+ I'm over-driving them and with open highway speeds
out here of 70 or 75, if I'm not running at least 70, some twerp in a Prius will run me down..
So I may have to wind up converting to something else..
trip out Old 66 and I think they are OK, but not great. They do help, but the range is a lot
less than I'd hoped for. They just seem to throw a very general, poorly focused light.
At city speeds they're fine, but at 50+ I'm over-driving them and with open highway speeds
out here of 70 or 75, if I'm not running at least 70, some twerp in a Prius will run me down..
So I may have to wind up converting to something else..
There are many reasons that can cause the fuse keeps blowing....
First of all re-check if the wires are connected as shown in the diagram.
Now check all the wires if they are not punched and make contact with the frame (=ground) using a multi meter (see image below)
Do the same for the switch and the relay.
It's also possible there's a malfunction in the relay.
Did you connect the fuse line to the proper position at the circuit breaker?
Here's an image how I connected this wire to the copper stud on the breaker:
Check if the fuse has the correct ampere (Fuse, blade 15 amp p/n 71779-98)
Here's a link to the Instruction Sheet.
Anxious to learn what the problem was and how you solved it....
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My fogs installed w/internal wiring
For those who want this is what the fogs look like with the wires run through the bars.
shows wires coming out of the bars
Another Shot showing the wires
The wires that came on the harness are too short, so I pulled back the plastic shield, cut and reconnected the wires and hid the connectors inside the shield.
Next I drilled three holes. One under each of the light mounts (the underside of the bars) and one in the center. I inserted a rubber grommet inside each of the holes to protect the wires. (grommets you can get a Lowes/Home Depot for like 35 cents each.)
Using a piece of shielded wire (to avoid scratching) I fed from the light holes to the center hole and pulled through.
I then simply mounted the lights and strapped up the harnes to the frame using the supplied black tie wraps and was done. Approx time maybe 1 1/2 hrs.
shows wires coming out of the bars
Another Shot showing the wires
The wires that came on the harness are too short, so I pulled back the plastic shield, cut and reconnected the wires and hid the connectors inside the shield.
Next I drilled three holes. One under each of the light mounts (the underside of the bars) and one in the center. I inserted a rubber grommet inside each of the holes to protect the wires. (grommets you can get a Lowes/Home Depot for like 35 cents each.)
Using a piece of shielded wire (to avoid scratching) I fed from the light holes to the center hole and pulled through.
I then simply mounted the lights and strapped up the harnes to the frame using the supplied black tie wraps and was done. Approx time maybe 1 1/2 hrs.
Last edited by HogNewbie; Sep 24, 2010 at 08:15 PM.