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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Now I know that all of us who have just recently picked up a 06 model, ofcourse I speak for myself. But I am a little concerned and a little pissed that I didn't hold out for a 07. Does anyone know if there is all that much difference in the motors and if it will affect the trade in value in the earlier models? How much difference between the twin cam 88 and the twin cam 96? I think this new motor will not change for several years. It just seems that Harley keeps everything top secret until the new model is unvieled. well, I'm happy with my 06 and have modified the exhaust and pulled off the reflectors and the tank badges, so I'll keep it. But if I would have known about the new motor I think I would have held out a few more months. Just my 2 cents, thats all. I think this new motor will decrease sales on big bore kits.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I got an '06 superglide custom back in march. I am glad I have the one I got. They dont have pearl white for '07 and if you compare spec's from the 06 to the 07 on torque and hp theres only a slight gain. you can mod the 88 to do that easily, and of course the rumors about not being able to mod the 07's abound. but we will have to wait and see on that. I dont intend on trading/selling mine for a good many years, if at all anyway. I had my 85 XLS roadster for 11 years for my first harley. AND sold it for more than i paid!! For me, I'm happy with my Helga
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the fundamentals of the 06 dyna motor were carried over to the '07 except for the extra stroke and light weight pistons and connecting rods. Don't forget, your '06 engine got all the internal goodies, better oiling, new cam design, 6 speed tranny, better cam chain follower setup, new built up cams, new cam bearings, light weight clutch, new starter design, oil line free engine, self adjusting primary, light weight clutch setup, lighter valve train, better flowring heads etc. Hell, the improvements to the '06 motors alone was a pretty deal compared to the other twin cams excluding the displacement bump of the 07's.

So '06 Dyna owners are the closest and already have the core components of the new stroker 96" motor.....just bolt on a 95 or 98 inch kit and it's right in there. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Some of the changes to the engine are more stroke, same bore. Lighter pistons different pushrods. Supposedly they made the valve train a little quieter. They have the changes on their site now. From what I heard, the screaming eagle engine is now a 110 instead of 103. I kind of wish I would have waited, but I would have missed out on some good riding so far this year.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Personally, I couldn't give a rats fat a$$ about the larger motor. I've been tooling around on several 88's over the years and they make plenty of horsepower for me. My cruiser makes 82 HP and my Bobber is cranking 78.4 HP. I'm interested to see what kind of emission controls are on these new ones, if any, and what the stock HP is for the 96. I'm sure someone already has these specs and maybe you could post them.

Bottom line, it makes our 06 Street Bob's the first and only year you can get one with an 88. Maybe that's worth something in itself??
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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I've got an '06 Superglide. Love it. Just because Harley popped out a new engine doesn't mean my new bike totally crapped out. I've bought three new Harleys in my life and got a little screwed with updates on each new purchase. I was actually more pissed about the sound system upgrade that went into the '06 Ultra after I'd bough an '05. It happens.

Every year since I've even been tangentially involved in motorcycling (1997) Harley has done some manner of upgrade. If they announced well ahead of the release sales of the previous year models would plummet. That's not good economics for dealers, investors, or customers. Think about it, you said yourself that had you known about the change, you wouldn't have made a purchase.

It sounds like there's enough of a difference between the engines that there will be a brief chilling effect. Folks are going to beat feet to their dealer to trade in their Twin Cam 88 models for the new Twin Cam 96. I expect that will lower some trade in values, and it'll bring a glut of used late-model Twin Cam 88s to dealerships.

I think there's some good news here too. First, the Twin Cam 88 engine is pretty damn good, and folks were happy with it. You've got a brand new bike with a brand new engine. Harley just upgraded. Someday in the future you'll upgrade too. Just remember that in the past, Harley has sold bikes with new technology next to their outgoing models ('84 shovel and Evolution) and ('98 Evolution and Twin Cam), and folks bought both. They flat had to know the new technology was coming out.

This year, for instance, folks bought a lot of touring bikes knowing the Dynas had a six-speed tranny. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that as per usual Harley was treating its customers as guinea pigs. Unless the six-speeds were a total disaster (beyond the minor recall, I'd call it a success), they were going into AT LEAST the tourning models the following year.

My friend, sit tight. My hunch is there's bugs in that there new engine that will work out over the next year or two. By that point the trade-in values and used bike glut will have evened out a bit and you'll be needing a new bike. Then you can get one with the new (and probably improved engine). Then you can gripe about the upgrades that come the following year.

Meanwhile, have a great time on you 2006 Dyna. I know I am.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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yeah! what Hound Dog said!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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excellent HOUNDDOG
 
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From what I see, the stroke is the same 4", the bore went from 3" to 3.380.
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I'm pretty sure that the fundamentals of the 06 dyna motor were carried over to the '07 except for the extra stroke and light weight pistons and connecting rods. Don't forget, your '06 engine got all the internal goodies, better oiling, new cam design, 6 speed tranny, better cam chain follower setup, new built up cams, new cam bearings, light weight clutch, new starter design, oil line free engine, self adjusting primary, light weight clutch setup, lighter valve train, better flowring heads etc. Hell, the improvements to the '06 motors alone was a pretty deal compared to the other twin cams excluding the displacement bump of the 07's.

So '06 Dyna owners are the closest and already have the core components of the new stroker 96" motor.....just bolt on a 95 or 98 inch kit and it's right in there. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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if i would have waited for the 07s thats just that much less i was able to be riding. i dont think its that big of a difference to regret buying an 06. nice but not a necessity.
 
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