I have a 2001 FXDWG. Took her out for a spin last week, and discovered both the right front and right rear turn signals weren't working. When I turn on the ignition, the left signals flash 6 quick times. I have trouble shot everything I and Mid Continent HD in Wichita know to do. Wichita HD has 3 other bikes with the same issue, and HD corporate hasn't returned their calls. Here's what I've done to trouble shoot it. I have ensured both front and back bulbs are good. Checked and replaced all fuses. My right hand turn signal cancels my left signal, so I know the switch is good. Also, if I disconnect my rear signals at the join under the seat, my right front signal works, also showing the switch is good. Replaced my turn signal module (not cheap at $120). What the %$#&!!!! With three other bikes affected in Wichita alone, I know someone out there has solved this issue. Any help would be much appreciated...

 

Max
Try to retrieve a code using this info to get it,

To diagnose the TSM/TSSM observe the behavior of the turn signals.
If the signals flash six fast 4-way flashes shortly after key on,
then an error code has been logged.
Code Types
There are two types of trouble codes:
Current and Historic.
If a trouble code is stored, it can be read using TSM/TSSM Diagnostics.
Current
Curent trouble codes are those which are present during the current
ignition cycle.
Historic
If a particular problem happens to resolve itself, the active status
problem is dropped and it becoes a historic code rather than a current code.
Intermittent output shorts can become typical historic codes.
Historic codes are stored for 50 ignition cycles.
It is important to note that historic codes will exist whenever the system
indicates the existence of a current fault.
Notes
*If the turn signals flash six four way flashes shortly after key on, it indicates an error code has been logged sometime in the last 3 ignition cycles. On vehicles with TSSM, the security lamp will also light for eight seconds after the bulb check if historic codes are present.
*The security lamp will stay on if current code(s) are set. If a historic code is present, the security lamp will light for 50 ignition cycles or until the code is cleared manually.

Invoking TSM/TSSM diagnostics
1: Set Run/Stop switch to off
2: Turn ign key ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON
3: Press the left turn switch two times and release.
*The signals flash 2 times for a Domestic TSSM
4: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 1 time.
5: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 2 times.
6: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 3 times.
7: Press the left turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash out the trouble codes.
There is a 1.5 sec pause between flashes to distinguish between 1st and 2nd digit of codes.
There is a 4 second pause between codes, then it will loop and repeat codes.
If the light comes on for 4 seconds after invoking test then goes out for good,
there are no codes stored.....test over....turn ignition off.
Wait at least 10 seconds
before turning ignition on again.
8: To clear codes (after repairs) press and hold left turn switch for 4-5 seconds at end of test.
* The signals flash 2 times to confirm your request.
Codes
11= Battery voltage high
21= left turn ouput fault
22= Right turn output fault
25= Ignition enable output high
31= alarm output low
32= alarm output high
34= starter output high
35= accelerometer fault
41= Ignition switch open/low
Possible causes
11= battery voltage >16.0v/battery charger used/voltage regulator fubar'd. (pin 1 / Bn/Gy)
21= bulbs/shorts/bad connections if no voltage on pins 5 or 6 with 4ways on TSSM FUBAR'd
25= should be no voltage present on pin 10 with key off. (Lt Grn/Gy wire on TSSM)
31&32= Middle pin on siren goes low voltage to fire alarm, high voltage to stop.
If the siren responds with 3 chirps instead of 2 the siren battery is fubar'd.
Pin A (Bn/Gy) is positive voltage downstream of the 15amp security fuse.
Pin C (Bk) is ground from pin 12 (Bk) on TSSM
34= Starter relay and coil are grounded via TSSM when disarmed and ignition on.
This code means the ground is from someplace else...short/hot wired..etc.
Starter relay could be fubar'd (voltage present on pin 9)(Tn/Gn) when not starting engine.
35= TSM/TSSM Fubar'd... bank angle and tamper will not function when this code is set.
41= Signals will not flash due to shorts, bad connections/wiring/bulbs/TSSM fubar'd

More notes
*If the siren Chirps 3 times instead of 2 this means time for a new siren battery.
*There can be codes set in the TSSM without any visual indications ie: Security lamp/ Signals
*There needs to be 12.0vdc availa

 

Well, I knew it was between the right rear turn signal and the seat from the previous trouble shooting activities. I tore into the rear end, and found an open wound in the wire where the fender joins the turn signal assembly. I looked and found the same thing on the left rear signal. I cut and tested the wires at those locations and found it was receiving signal. So, problem solved! It turned out to be a ground fault due to a rub at the fender elbow. I just bought new bags, and need to move the signals back to the rear hole anyway. So, I just took both rear signals off, and am in the process of rewiring the whole rear end. While I'm at it, I might as well purchase some new custom signals. Seems like a good excuse...

Thanks for the reply.
Do you know how to clear the diagnostic code without going to the dealer?

Good riding!
Max

 

Shure do,
Read the above then #8

8: To clear codes (after repairs) press and hold left turn switch for 4-5 seconds at end of test.
* The signals flash 2 times to confirm your request.

Glad it turned out to be something inexpensive for a change for ya.

How's the tornados doing down there?

 

That's EXACTLY the same problem I've been having with my '05 Night Train. I'm glad you were able to locate the problem. I'm going to go home and check it out. My dealer also said that they didn't know why it would do that. They said they ran a scan and all but came up with nothing. Anyway, I'll let you guys know how it went.

 

A little breeze has never hurt anyone... The Big Dog Tornado Rally is this weekend in Wichita. It's the first annual rally for Big Dog. Join us! Grimm, hope you find the same inexpensive issue. HD doesn't seem to know their own product. Listen to TCSTD. Also, try disconnecting the rear harness under the seat to find out if the ground is in the front or rear wiring.

Good luck!
Max

 

..........HD doesn't seem to know their own product.

AMEN!!!

You'd think these dealers would strive to keep up on problems and solutions, but I guess the $$$$$ are more important

 

Well, it turns out that I had a bad TSM the whole time. It only took the dealer THREE tries to pinpoint it. The bastards never even tried the first two times they just ran the diagnostic and didn't find anything. I don't think they even considered it until I mentioned it to them. Oh, well. It's now replaced and better than new. Time to ride (after work, that is)!

 

Glad you're up and running again, now go ride it!

 

[quote]ORIGINAL: TCSTD

Max
Try to retrieve a code using this info to get it,

To diagnose the TSM/TSSM observe the behavior of the turn signals.
If the signals flash six fast 4-way flashes shortly after key on,
then an error code has been logged.
Code Types
There are two types of trouble codes:
Current and Historic.
If a trouble code is stored, it can be read using TSM/TSSM Diagnostics.
Current
Curent trouble codes are those which are present during the current
ignition cycle.
Historic
If a particular problem happens to resolve itself, the active status
problem is dropped and it becoes a historic code rather than a current code.
Intermittent output shorts can become typical historic codes.
Historic codes are stored for 50 ignition cycles.
It is important to note that historic codes will exist whenever the system
indicates the existence of a current fault.
Notes
*If the turn signals flash six four way flashes shortly after key on, it indicates an error code has been logged sometime in the last 3 ignition cycles. On vehicles with TSSM, the security lamp will also light for eight seconds after the bulb check if historic codes are present.
*The security lamp will stay on if current code(s) are set. If a historic code is present, the security lamp will light for 50 ignition cycles or until the code is cleared manually.

Invoking TSM/TSSM diagnostics
1: Set Run/Stop switch to off
2: Turn ign key ON-OFF-ON-OFF-ON
3: Press the left turn switch two times and release.
*The signals flash 2 times for a Domestic TSSM
4: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 1 time.
5: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 2 times.
6: Press the right turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash 3 times.
7: Press the left turn switch 1 time and release.
*The signals flash out the trouble codes.
There is a 1.5 sec pause between flashes to distinguish between 1st and 2nd digit of codes.
There is a 4 second pause between codes, then it will loop and repeat codes.
If the light comes on for 4 seconds after invoking test then goes out for good,
there are no codes stored.....test over....turn ignition off.
Wait at least 10 seconds
before turning ignition on again.
8: To clear codes (after repairs) press and hold left turn switch for 4-5 seconds at end of test.
* The signals flash 2 times to confirm your request.
Codes
11= Battery voltage high
21= left turn ouput fault
22= Right turn output fault
25= Ignition enable output high
31= alarm output low
32= alarm output high
34= starter output high
35= accelerometer fault
41= Ignition switch open/low
Possible causes
11= battery voltage >16.0v/battery charger used/voltage regulator fubar'd. (pin 1 / Bn/Gy)
21= bulbs/shorts/bad connections if no voltage on pins 5 or 6 with 4ways on TSSM FUBAR'd
25= should be no voltage present on pin 10 with key off. (Lt Grn/Gy wire on TSSM)
31&32= Middle pin on siren goes low voltage to fire alarm, high voltage to stop.
If the siren responds with 3 chirps instead of 2 the siren battery is fubar'd.
Pin A (Bn/Gy) is positive voltage downstream of the 15amp security fuse.
Pin C (Bk) is ground from pin 12 (Bk) on TSSM
34= Starter relay and coil are grounded via TSSM when disarmed and ignition on.
This code means the ground is from someplace else...short/hot wired..etc.
Starter relay could be fubar'd (voltage present on pin 9)(Tn/Gn) when not starting engine.
35= TSM/TSSM Fubar'd... bank angle and tamper will not function when this code is set.
41= Signals will not flash due to shorts, bad connections/wiring/bulbs/TSSM fubar'd

More notes
*If the siren Chirps 3 times instead of 2 this means time for a new siren battery.
*There can be codes set in the TSSM without any visual indications ie: Security lamp/ Signals
*The