Originally Posted by MidnitEvil

I think your problem has to do with trying to buy HD parts from a football team. You might try talking to a Harley Dealer. Although there are a few who seem unwilling to haggle on price, I find that frequenting a single dealer, getting to know the people who work there, and giving them my business regularly seems to make them more willing to offer me additional discounts whenever possible. If find this also works with pretty much any other type of business as well.

Originally Posted by archergodwin

When the dealer does the stage.1 download, it comes in the form of a pluggable-storage device if you will. From my experience and what I've read, the download is 150 bucks: period. No, 150 for the card, and 80 to download.

The reason you keep getting different answers when you call, is because you are asking some of the same questions, and they know that you don't know.

I have had the $150 download, and I can say, it is not worth the money. If you don't intend to do much to the bike past the stage.1 stuff (a/c & pipes) then get a PCIII. However if you like to tinker and your bike will be a work in progress for as long as you own it... get a TTS. I have one, and feel confident in recommending it to others.

Stage one "package" is pretty much this: different pipes and higher flow a/c... doesn't matter who makes 'em. If you do both pipes and a/c, then you 'should' enrichen your AFR, because the EFI bikes run a bit hot anyway.

So here is some straight scoop:
Your engine is an air pump. Envision if you will, that your intake-engine-exhaust, is a straight piece of pipe. Your resultant air flow through the pipe is limited by the area of smallest diameter (least amount of flow). You can change the "diameter" of the intake end of the pipe, but you are still restricted by the middle (engine) and exhaust end of the pipe.... and so on and so on... unless you change the entire system to match each other. Easy to change the intake end, and exhaust end. More expensive and harder to change the middle.... for that requires port work, CC'ing the heads, knowing exactly what the heads flow, and new cams, along with piston compression and cylinder volume.

Yes, it can be complicated. But until you get to modifying the middle part of the pipe, along with both ends, your just playing with small numbers, and are doing more for aesthetics than performance.

... just my opinion.