exhaust laws suck
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From: On a hill among the hills, PA
TRhe people that complain about motorcycle noise are the same people that complain about lawnmowers, leaf blowers.Now i pose this question. How long do you hear a motorcycle passing by your house for? 20-30 seconds max? I could understand if there was some ******* revving the **** out of his bike at 5 am everyday but for the most part there a 3 days a week that bikes are on the road in mass numbers. If people cant deal with it they truly have nothing better to do than bitch.
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From: On a hill among the hills, PA
Kinda funny but north of here are some farms and people are buying up land and buiding big homes... they call the cops cause the farmer is running his tractor in the fields across the road and spreading manure!
Road Master
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From: Northern California
Hey y'all need to take a look at the thread I started on the "General Forums." There is a bill going through the Calif. legislature right now that will outlaw non-stock pipes. And, you better believe that in this state that is $19B in debt, it will be enforced as the fine is $300, I believe. The bill comes up before committee on Monday.
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From: Methuen, MA
in MA some ******** actually got a farm Shut Down that had been around for 70+years. Its what happens when the Gov't prefers to cater to crybabies.
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From: On a hill among the hills, PA
Cruiser
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From: Central Maine
That is total B.S. I hope all the Motorcycle clubs in CA will be there to fight that hard. That is what Maine would like to do too. I thought this was The Land of The Free. Maine wants to make it so that all you can do here is watch the birds, pay taxes and hike on the nature trails. I hate stock pipes, I don't want my Harley to sound like my lawn mower again.
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From: Methuen, MA
This is just another example of F'd up priorities. City busses are louder than my ****ing bike stock and i will venture a guess that under most conditions it will still be quieter than a bus after i get my pipes put on. We're just an easy target because few of "us" really ride on a daily basis and those that dont dont get involved in trying to keep our rights.
Road Master
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From: USA
The right pipes sound good to bikers. I think that loud pipes on a pickup is GAY. Just depends on the person. It's the extreme that kills it all for the rest and brings out the stupid laws for all. Keep in mind that just because you love your extreme pipes does not mean everyone else does. We all lose.
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From: Marina del Rey
we are responsible
and we're paying them to make and enforce these laws, even laws we don't want. It isn't hard for them to put enough spin on it that a majority go along--it is relentless, and we, the minority, will lose.
50-years ago, when we were kids with our first cars, everyone put steel-packs or glass-packs (mufflers) on, or otherwise modified their exhausts to basically just make more noise; some even ran straight-pipes. Some had "lakes" pipes, which could be quickly uncapped to produce the effect of un-baffled straight-pipes. There were even "cutouts", an exhaust Y-valve which allowed the selection of either muffled or straight-pipes to be made from the driver's seat. These allowed us to go relatively unnoticed and be more or less above the law when around built-up commercial or residential areas. But we could raise all the hell we wanted everywhere else! And most of us settled for that, and had a great time.
Yeah, once in awhile one of us just couldn't control ourselves around the neighborhood, and tried to see if he could beat the local record for longest burnout, or how fast he could go before having to slam on his brakes for the big bend in the road, and some neighbors might have had enough of us at times and yelled at us to stop, but it was rare that they sent police to deal with that.
Nowadays, it's a whole new business.
50-years ago, when we were kids with our first cars, everyone put steel-packs or glass-packs (mufflers) on, or otherwise modified their exhausts to basically just make more noise; some even ran straight-pipes. Some had "lakes" pipes, which could be quickly uncapped to produce the effect of un-baffled straight-pipes. There were even "cutouts", an exhaust Y-valve which allowed the selection of either muffled or straight-pipes to be made from the driver's seat. These allowed us to go relatively unnoticed and be more or less above the law when around built-up commercial or residential areas. But we could raise all the hell we wanted everywhere else! And most of us settled for that, and had a great time.
Yeah, once in awhile one of us just couldn't control ourselves around the neighborhood, and tried to see if he could beat the local record for longest burnout, or how fast he could go before having to slam on his brakes for the big bend in the road, and some neighbors might have had enough of us at times and yelled at us to stop, but it was rare that they sent police to deal with that.
Nowadays, it's a whole new business.
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From: Baytown Tx.
Unfortunately, we now live in a country that if you do something that offends someone, anyone, they want to pass a law and make it illegal. It's just one symptom of the pussification of America.
I do agree that the morons that sit there and rev their bikes over and over every chance they get are adding to the problem. They are their own, and our worst enemy.
I think another thing that contributes is the much larger number of bikes on the road these days. One bike riding by your house with loud pipes might not be that annoying to the average person, but ten bikes with loud pipes riding by makes a lot more noise.
A lot of states have similar laws already on the books, and just don't enforce them. Unfortunately, I think it's just a matter of time before they do.
I do agree that the morons that sit there and rev their bikes over and over every chance they get are adding to the problem. They are their own, and our worst enemy.
I think another thing that contributes is the much larger number of bikes on the road these days. One bike riding by your house with loud pipes might not be that annoying to the average person, but ten bikes with loud pipes riding by makes a lot more noise.
A lot of states have similar laws already on the books, and just don't enforce them. Unfortunately, I think it's just a matter of time before they do.