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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JRK5892
you can use this as well to tuck the ballast elsewhere in the bike and make it work in the smaller headlights
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40-inches-XE...75a06f&vxp=mtr
Was just going to ask this question. Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ADCD875
Aren't installing HID units in non-HID (reflective) housings illegal? Since all HID (a.k.a xenon/bi-xenon) headlights require optic lens (projector) system, these will be (especially dangerous at night time) illegal and create an unvanted law enforcement attention. Some states already started passing laws against the use of HID bulbs in reflective housings.

I like to see the light output of the new Harley LED headlights..
He is absolutely right.... a Projector lens is a must or you literally blind everyone..I guess aiming low might help.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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The H4 HID bulb I got with my kit had a metal shroud around the bottom of it. From the front with the light on, it looks like a 1/2 beam. I was drinking beer one night and decided to remove the metal on the bulb and figured out why it's there. It projects the beam to the top 1/2 of the headlight lens and puts it on the road instead of in oncoming traffics eyes. When removed it projects the beam to the bottom of the lens and up into oncoming traffics eyes (Bad). I put it back on that night. No complaints from oncoming traffic.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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I have a ddm hid kit 35w 6000k slim ballast. And i couldnt get to fit inside my head light bucket on my 06 SB. Only way to make it work would be to enlarge the whole to the headlight bucket so you can run the wires threw it and mount the slim ballast under the lower tree. Didnt like the way that it looked so I didnt install it. The kit works great had one on my cbr and it kicked *** at night . 35w is plenty of power. It cost me like $45.00 from there site . Just my two cents . If you have a better was to install let me know. I still have it collecting dust in my closet.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 04:36 AM
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I don't recall the name of the kit I bought. It's 35w and fits inside the 7" headlight bucket even with a capacitor added. Everything was 100% plug and play. (Took longer to take the old headlight out than it did to hook up the wiring) It is not bi-xenon but I don't need brights with it anyway and I have the H4 halogen high beam I can switch to if an LEO gives me a hard time (Haven't yet and plenty have seen me and I've been behind a few). I did adjust it low to try to keep from drawing undue attention (Will be getting a projector lens for it soon though). From what I could find the retrofits are all illegal unless they are a factory option and upgraded by the auto manufacturer. I'll politely take a ticket if I get one though because they both make it easier for me to see and to be seen. In reality I am seeing a lot of cars around here with the retrofits too. (80's and 90's models so I know they can't be factory) As far as safety goes I consider this my number one upgrade.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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I've seen on here where one of the guys compared the MoCo LED vs an AM HID and the HID was about 25% brighter at half the cost. You can tell the off-road use only kits vs the DOT ones by pulling in front of a wall on a flat surface, the DOT approved ones will create flat level line where it stops about eye level while the off-road use only variants will shine the whole wall. It's only illegal if you're state enforces it.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcar1
The H4 HID bulb I got with my kit had a metal shroud around the bottom of it. From the front with the light on, it looks like a 1/2 beam. I was drinking beer one night and decided to remove the metal on the bulb and figured out why it's there. It projects the beam to the top 1/2 of the headlight lens and puts it on the road instead of in oncoming traffics eyes. When removed it projects the beam to the bottom of the lens and up into oncoming traffics eyes (Bad). I put it back on that night. No complaints from oncoming traffic.
I'm glad I re read this. I just got my replacement from the shop in the mail. Seen that shroud and wondered wtf... Middle of the day I can't see where it's shining. Guys hooked me up it is a BikeMaster 35w 6000K H4 H/L. Bi xenon. My other one wasn't. I like that it has it's own power source too.

One year out of warranty and they not only replaced it. They upgraded it. No. It's not a Harley shop. Lol.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JonV
He is absolutely right.... a Projector lens is a must or you literally blind everyone..I guess aiming low might help.
Misinformed enet mythology spread like herpes by people too ignorant to know the actual science of automotive lighting. Let me guess, you know a guy who knew a guy that knew another guy that had the Department of Transportation do an armed raid on his garage to seize his illegal terrorist HID setup

I will address a few questions about them because once a bad case of enet STD's starts its tough to put down. There is no federal law (and I am a Admin of Justice/Psych major so I actually study the law) expressly prohibiting use of HID kits in any privately owned and operated vehicle. There are some states which have added laws that allow for police officers to use discretion in determining vehicle equipment safety hazards and whether items such as HID's are a violation of that code and as such those states have added HID's to their list of items which violate DMV equipment safety standards. I guarantee if you ran 5000 kelvin HID bulbs properly aimed and mounted no cop would be able to tell they weren't bright white Halogens.

There is no federal regulatory Department of Transportation that governs privately owned and operated vehicles. The Federal DOT, which does exist, regulates public transportation and commercial transportation ONLY. The federal DOT also does not approve or disapprove items for use on privately owned vehicles so when you see a DOT sticker on items like helmets that just means if that company is legit they tested and made sure their items meet DOT recommended standards. The DOT only stipulates what requirements and or conditions are necessary for an item to be within compliance of their recommended standards which is why shady companies get away with putting DOT stickers on crap because there is no actual enforcement component of the federal DOT that comes out and prosecutes them for non compliance. That's what civil litigation is for on the individual level and what the State Attorney General's Office is for if its deemed a statewide concern.

Next, HID's are no more dangerous than Halogen. This idea that they are magically more dangerous is pure nonsensical internet bullshit myth spread by people ignorant about how lighting actually works and companies like Daniel Stern Lighting that use bullshit arbitrary testing methods and tailored results to "prove" to you how dangerous HID Lighting is because they do not want you to buy the competitions items which are more popular and more effective.

The reason the Halogen Silver Stars you can buy at the parts store has a thick coating on the end of them is so that if your headlamp assembly does not have an internal metal hood it will prevent light from coming out the end of the bulb and blinding oncoming drivers which is the same concern with HID as the initial flood of them onto the market allowed many without end coating to be used in lamp assemblies without hoods.

The second biggest problem with HID is the light color people choose because 4000 kelvin emits almost identical yellowish light that a standard Halogen bulb would, but who wants an old yellow look HID kit. The horrendously obnoxious migraine purple you see tweens in Honda Civics using is in the 12000 Kelvin range which is irritating to look at for most humans because we interpret it as a much brighter light source and color even though the actual energy output is the same so when it comes into view and has a wider spread of light than Halogen due to the design of the light source you think its more dangerous.

Reality is the stupid mother ****** in the Honda is the dangerous part. If you use 5000-7000 kelvin HID bulbs that either have end coating or are in a headlamp assembly with a metal hood inside it will direct the light back onto the mirrored panels and if you've adjusted the lamp itself correctly it will shine brightly onto the road surface giving you better visibility at night. If you didn't follow any of that then your Halogen Sylvania Silver Stars in the 6000 kelvin range are just as bad the ricer in the Honda and shining eye level at oncoming drivers temporarily obstructing their vision and possibly causing a wreck.

Mercedes has been using HID lights as a factory option since the 90's and no one so far as a result has been abducted by aliens, caused the earths core to overheat, or caused oncoming drivers to spontaneously combust like a bad vampire movie. Science and knowledge are your friends, the internet ............ not so much
 
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xantasm
Misinformed enet mythology spread like herpes by people too ignorant to know the actual science of automotive lighting. Let me guess, you know a guy who knew a guy that knew another guy that had the Department of Transportation do an armed raid on his garage to seize his illegal terrorist HID setup

I will address a few questions about them because once a bad case of enet STD's starts its tough to put down. There is no federal law (and I am a Admin of Justice/Psych major so I actually study the law) expressly prohibiting use of HID kits in any privately owned and operated vehicle. There are some states which have added laws that allow for police officers to use discretion in determining vehicle equipment safety hazards and whether items such as HID's are a violation of that code and as such those states have added HID's to their list of items which violate DMV equipment safety standards. I guarantee if you ran 5000 kelvin HID bulbs properly aimed and mounted no cop would be able to tell they weren't bright white Halogens.

There is no federal regulatory Department of Transportation that governs privately owned and operated vehicles. The Federal DOT, which does exist, regulates public transportation and commercial transportation ONLY. The federal DOT also does not approve or disapprove items for use on privately owned vehicles so when you see a DOT sticker on items like helmets that just means if that company is legit they tested and made sure their items meet DOT recommended standards. The DOT only stipulates what requirements and or conditions are necessary for an item to be within compliance of their recommended standards which is why shady companies get away with putting DOT stickers on crap because there is no actual enforcement component of the federal DOT that comes out and prosecutes them for non compliance. That's what civil litigation is for on the individual level and what the State Attorney General's Office is for if its deemed a statewide concern.

Next, HID's are no more dangerous than Halogen. This idea that they are magically more dangerous is pure nonsensical internet bullshit myth spread by people ignorant about how lighting actually works and companies like Daniel Stern Lighting that use bullshit arbitrary testing methods and tailored results to "prove" to you how dangerous HID Lighting is because they do not want you to buy the competitions items which are more popular and more effective.

The reason the Halogen Silver Stars you can buy at the parts store has a thick coating on the end of them is so that if your headlamp assembly does not have an internal metal hood it will prevent light from coming out the end of the bulb and blinding oncoming drivers which is the same concern with HID as the initial flood of them onto the market allowed many without end coating to be used in lamp assemblies without hoods.

The second biggest problem with HID is the light color people choose because 4000 kelvin emits almost identical yellowish light that a standard Halogen bulb would, but who wants an old yellow look HID kit. The horrendously obnoxious migraine purple you see tweens in Honda Civics using is in the 12000 Kelvin range which is irritating to look at for most humans because we interpret it as a much brighter light source and color even though the actual energy output is the same so when it comes into view and has a wider spread of light than Halogen due to the design of the light source you think its more dangerous.

Reality is the stupid mother ****** in the Honda is the dangerous part. If you use 5000-7000 kelvin HID bulbs that either have end coating or are in a headlamp assembly with a metal hood inside it will direct the light back onto the mirrored panels and if you've adjusted the lamp itself correctly it will shine brightly onto the road surface giving you better visibility at night. If you didn't follow any of that then your Halogen Sylvania Silver Stars in the 6000 kelvin range are just as bad the ricer in the Honda and shining eye level at oncoming drivers temporarily obstructing their vision and possibly causing a wreck.

Mercedes has been using HID lights as a factory option since the 90's and no one so far as a result has been abducted by aliens, caused the earths core to overheat, or caused oncoming drivers to spontaneously combust like a bad vampire movie. Science and knowledge are your friends, the internet ............ not so much

HAHA, a bit strong but the message does get across in a very eloquent way.
 
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I'm glad I re read this. I just got my replacement from the shop in the mail. Seen that shroud and wondered wtf... Middle of the day I can't see where it's shining. Guys hooked me up it is a BikeMaster 35w 6000K H4 H/L. Bi xenon. My other one wasn't. I like that it has it's own power source too.

One year out of warranty and they not only replaced it. They upgraded it. No. It's not a Harley shop. Lol.
About to pull the trigger on the Bikemasterlite unit. Any feedback? Good product or what? Thanks.
 
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