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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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I have 7000 miles on my Street Bob I purchased Feb 26, 2010. I have done all the maintenance on the bike per the 2010 Dyna Service Manual. I am really thinking of putting in some 204s because I like the lope, and I think they would compliment my riding style.
A fellow biker here at work mentioned to me that my bike is broke in, and adding a performance part now might shorten the length of the motor. i.e. Don't open a motor if it is in good working order. I understand his thoughts, and I would have the stealer/dealer do the work because I have a pretty good relation, and they have been straight with me since I took my down payment back after some BS they tried to pull. Another story.

My question is @ 7000 miles on a new bike would adding the cams stress anything that might have been broke in. Example. Hair line cracks, the way the engine twists while accelerating and decel, etc.
I know that adding this performance part will make the engine vibrate different and all. I also wish I had done this at purchase, but I didn't think about it then. I am just concerned about opening up a motor that for now seems to have been flawless.

Thanks for your opinions.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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You are thinking way too much.Now is a fine time for cams and your motor will be just fine with 204's.You won't however get as good a lope with your injected bike as the older bikes get.Just my opinion.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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As a Street Bob owner, I am interested in this topic. Posting to keep it at the top of my list. Editbrain, I am curious, what is your riding style? Aggressive?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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well I wouldnt worry, I am putting andrews 54h in monday! my bike has 8600. I would do it and not look back. the 204 is a good cam it was between those and my 54h. I went with 54h because bean said they were the best with his heads.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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My riding style is mainly street, and fairly aggressive. No, lugging. No, putt'n. Interstate is 75-80 mph.
I like the torque range to stay low-mid. I am thinking 204s because of warranty. I would like to do this before the warranty is up in case it fails. I do not have head work. This is the other reason for the 204s. I figure a modest 5-8 pound of torque moving the range back to the lower end, and a 3-5 bump in HP. Just guessing here. Nothing really to back it up.
There is just something to be said with fixing something that isn't broken. I have had projects like this go south really quick, and what turned out to be a 1 day job may turn out to be a month, but like I said the dealer will do it for a pretty good chunk of money.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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I'm not sure what correlation mileage has to doing performance upgrades.

I'd sure like to hear your co-worker's rationale.

Oh, and if you think adding Screamin Eagle (harley parts) won't void your warranty if they can determine a problem was caused by the part you're adding you're kidding yourself.

Back when I was researching install cost, my local dealer told me that adding SE cams would void my warranty if a problem ocurred and it could br traced back to the cams. I argued with him that they are harley parts and how could a harley part void a harley warranty. He said "I know, but that's how they are about it.".

So, if you're worried about having warranty issues, just wait till it's done.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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your buddy has no idea what he is talking about! i tore my motor down and did it with 28k on it. he has no idea what he is talking about at all.
204's sound like a good cam i personlly like my 37's the most, they rip off the line, cruise no problem, did loose a bit of gas milage but i could care less about that, and have a wicked sound at idol
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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I think his thinking is if it isn't broke don't fix it. Like why open a motor that is in perfect working condition. I understand what he is saying, and it is something to think about.
I still get where I am going, and can be out in front of vehicles easy from a light. The bike is quick. Quicker than any bike I have ridden or owned.

I like the idea of having the cams. I don't plan on head work though. I have a Stage 1 with a Thunderheader, and it is a nice sounding setup.
I almost feel geezer to think that a Corbin Solo with a backrest and a set of HW pegs for those long trips NW would be a better use of the money.

And his reasoning on mileage is that the parts have tweaked themselves to rest, and maybe the metal has had some stress cracks and such. I am sure it happens. I would use the term cured, but... I am not a motorcycle mechanic, and he comes from a long line of diesel mechanics. He is pretty good with motors. I just wanted to post up here for some other opinions.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Checkout the Cycle Rama 575, it's a high lift dropin with a 35* intake valve close. A 30T pulley will do wonders without breaking into the engine, just the primary.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by editbrain
This is the other reason for the 204s. I figure a modest 5-8 pound of torque moving the range back to the lower end, and a 3-5 bump in HP.
The 204's are going to be more than a modest bump if your exhaust doesn't hold you back. My motor is pushing 100ft/lbs and 90hp with the 204's.
 
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