Difference between 80493-07 and 80678-08 SE slipons?
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Not up on ALL the EPA nonsense, but I do know that (down here anyway) it's illegal to just shoot some freeze-tone into an A/C compressor without first repairing it. It's also illegal to remove and not replace a catalytic converter on a car. My buddy's repair shop, the border has to be surrounded by a drain field to catch coolant, waste oil, etc.
There's so much BS with the EPA, and there's so many ways to get around them -- I can't keep up. Even if I wanted to, which I don't. But, as usual, the Government concentrates on the bigger targets, the ones that do business across State lines and Internationally and have billions of dollars to pay fines with -- Like the MoCo.
I'm not running cats on one of my cars and if I ever get busted for it, I'm calling the H-Pipe a "Test Pipe". But I can plead ignorance (which is entirely plausible) where a big, giant Company like the MoCo can't.
Also, Dealers are Independently owned Franchises. They're not owned by the MoCo.
There's so much BS with the EPA, and there's so many ways to get around them -- I can't keep up. Even if I wanted to, which I don't. But, as usual, the Government concentrates on the bigger targets, the ones that do business across State lines and Internationally and have billions of dollars to pay fines with -- Like the MoCo.
I'm not running cats on one of my cars and if I ever get busted for it, I'm calling the H-Pipe a "Test Pipe". But I can plead ignorance (which is entirely plausible) where a big, giant Company like the MoCo can't.
Also, Dealers are Independently owned Franchises. They're not owned by the MoCo.
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Awhile back I went to my dealer and had them bring out both models so I could check them out. Yes, all '10 dynas (maybe earlyer too) have the cat built into the stock muffler (softails & dressers have them in the headers). The 50 state muffler has a cat. but the cells/honeycomb look a little more open than the stock muffler. Of course the 49 state version has no cat. As long as the head pipe O.D. is compatible with any mufflers inlet I.D. then you can use whatever your conscience will allow.
P.S. I noticed that in the S.E. catalog it has that little ca state symbol on the 49 state but in the main catalog it doesnt.
P.S. I noticed that in the S.E. catalog it has that little ca state symbol on the 49 state but in the main catalog it doesnt.
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Awhile back I went to my dealer and had them bring out both models so I could check them out. Yes, all '10 dynas (maybe earlyer too) have the cat built into the stock muffler (softails & dressers have them in the headers). The 50 state muffler has a cat. but the cells/honeycomb look a little more open than the stock muffler. Of course the 49 state version has no cat. As long as the head pipe O.D. is compatible with any mufflers inlet I.D. then you can use whatever your conscience will allow.
P.S. I noticed that in the S.E. catalog it has that little ca state symbol on the 49 state but in the main catalog it doesnt.
P.S. I noticed that in the S.E. catalog it has that little ca state symbol on the 49 state but in the main catalog it doesnt.
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Missouri bike has them, built at plant 20 miles from my dealer..........
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My 2010 FXDC had catalytic converters in the muffler body.
I think it's this 'catalyst' required by CARB that has a lot of people (including me) confused.
My understanding is that it's quite a bit different from the other 49 States.
I think it's this 'catalyst' required by CARB that has a lot of people (including me) confused.
My understanding is that it's quite a bit different from the other 49 States.
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Again, just what the Rush guy told me, but he said definitively that most of the 49 state '10-'11 Dynas did not have a cat anywhere, only one or two models that didn't exist before 2006. I think he mentioned the WG and one other, but I could be wrong about which specific model(s). I just wanted to hear that my '11 Super Glide did not have them.
He sounded like he knew his stuff, but then...
He sounded like he knew his stuff, but then...