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LED lights, did you need a load equalizer?

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Default RE: LED lights, did you need a load equalizer?

I installed amber LED bulbs in front and rear turn signals as well as Kuryakyn's laydown LED taillight. I did have to install one load equalizer. Cost $17. What it does is it adds a 2amp load to the circuit to make the flasher think it's still plugged into halogen bulbs. I had no trouble finding a place for everything and it all works nicely.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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I am running Radiantz LED clusters in my rear, a Street Magic/Radiantz full replacement smoke LED brake light and regular incandescent bulbs in the front. I did have to add a load equalizer to get rid of the "hyperflash" with the signals. I chose Biketronics Smart Equalizer due to the fact that it emits very little heat like most other load equalizers, and it allows you to still use your 4-way flashers. Those splice-in load equalizers from Kuryakyn and other manufacturers get really hot and do not allow use of the flashers. If you are stranded on a back road at night the last thing you want to do if have to take your seat off and disconnect the L/E to have your flashers on.

 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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<”Monstermile”>

<” I did have to add a load equalizer to get rid of the "hyperflash" with the signals. I chose Biketronics Smart Equalizer due to the fact that it emits very little heat like most other load equalizers, and it allows you to still use your 4-way flashers.”>

4-way flashers great option wish I had them, as I said in pervious replies I know little about load equalizers, if adding LED’s to a bike would loses 4-ways it’s a bad idea to do so, I agree. Radiantz sells load equalizers as a plug-in but I guess you found out they get hot ? if they get hot as the Kuryakyn flasher I tried years ago, I couldn’t hold it in my hand w/o flashing ! and lasted a few flashes then burn-out.

What do you mean by "hyperflash" ? I assume high rate of flash ? like some sorta strobe effect ?
Can it be adjusted ? I wouldn’t want to run LED’s at the flash rate of a stock HD flasher, that was my beef w/my ride with bulbs long before I change over, the snail pace flash, when running on a hi-speed interstate hiways or divided hiways, I want people to notice me when I change lanes at 55/65 plus, stock flashers are too damn slow IMO.

I have mine adjusted to almost 3 flashes per second, not exactly a strobe effect and as of today haven’t had anyone in the front or rear ever pull out at the same time I did.

So did you find a load equalizer that can adjust the flash rate ?

Thanks for any info on this.

cj

 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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cj_slowdown: Since I am not that good at explaining the workings of electrical components, I'll let the experts explain.

What a load equalizer is for:
Stock flasher relays on motorcycles are designed to blink twice as fast as normal (hyperflash) when a bulb is burned out to alert the driver of this condition. Leds consume so little power compared to the stock bulbs, that the flasher relay thinks that a bulb is burned out when LEDs are used in place of stock bulbs. If you have replaced your stock turn signals with LEDs and your turns signals flash too fast or do not flash at all, you will need to add a Smart Equalizer, or a load equalizer, or replace your flasher relay.

The difference in using the Biketronice Smart Equalizer:
Most load equalizers place a load back on your electrical system, this wastes power and reduces the brightness of your LEDs.
Smart Equalizers solid state units that trick the load dependent flasher into thinking there is a load when LEDs are present
Consumes less power than typical load equalizers. Smart Equalizers produce little or no heat. Delivers more power to your LEDs resulting in brighter light. Plug and Play. One Smart Equalizer covers the Entire Bike.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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<”Monstermile”>

<”cj_slowdown: Since I am not that good at explaining the workings of electrical components, I'll let the experts explain.

It doesn’t matter if you can’t explain the system, the more important thing is, YOU know where to find the answers : - )


<”What a load equalizer is for:
Stock flasher relays on motorcycles are designed to blink twice as fast as normal (hyperflash) when a bulb is burned out to alert the driver of this condition. Leds consume so little power compared to the stock bulbs, that the flasher relay thinks that a bulb is burned out when LEDs are used in place of stock bulbs. If you have replaced your stock turn signals with LEDs and your turns signals flash too fast or do not flash at all, you will need to add a Smart Equalizer, or a load equalizer, or replace your flasher relay. “>

<”The difference in using the Biketronice Smart Equalizer:
Most load equalizers place a load back on your electrical system, this wastes power and reduces the brightness of your LEDs.
Smart Equalizers solid state units that trick the load dependent flasher into thinking there is a load when LEDs are present consumes less power than typical load equalizers. Smart Equalizers produce little or no heat. Delivers more power to your LEDs resulting in brighter light. Plug and Play. One Smart Equalizer covers the Entire Bike. “>


“Biketronice Smart Equalizer” Sweet, that is the way to go, putting a load on the system is not the way to go and forget the “reduces the brightness of the LED” thats one of the reasons why we use them !
Sounds like you really check it out for your model, I am impressed good job, in the long run you actually save money and your system works as it should.

Just wish I could have 4-ways, I am not on the side of the hi-way much if at all, the one time was running along the side of 87N on the NY throu-way doing 35 MPH with a crap-out battery trying to make the next exist to get to a HD dealer, did make it but a PIA w/o 4-ways, good thing two riding buddies where in back of me w/4-ways on, I have been on Radiantz a** to make a 4-way flasher to work w/LED’s but not yet, I told them think of all the HD’s out there that don’t, 4-way baggers yes but loads of sport-bikes !
Anyway still hoping.

Here comes the but, is there anyway to set the speed of the flash pattern ? I know I am a PIA with that, but I got used to the faster adjustment and to me it’s important, unless you found it’s a little faster than stock ?

Thanks, for getting me on to that info for the newer bikes w/4-ways.

cj

w/any luck you will see two one w/running, one w/run/brake on.



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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Default RE: LED lights, did you need a load equalizer?

I needed one when I went to LED's. I have both from and read turn signal LED's. I also have the conversion kit to make the rears into break lights. I got the one from biketronics. One thing I found out is that you need to make sure that you get the Load EQ for a bike with an alarm if your bike comes with an alarm, or you will throw a fault code.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: cj_slowdown
Here comes the but, is there anyway to set the speed of the flash pattern ? I know I am a PIA with that, but I got used to the faster adjustment and to me it’s important, unless you found it’s a little faster than stock ?
Sorry man. No way to adjust the flash speed. They flash at the stock flash pattern.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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<"Monstermile">

<"Sorry man. No way to adjust the flash speed. They flash at the stock flash pattern.">

Thanks for the info, I guess that is one more check in the Con column for me buying a new one : - )))

later,

cj



 
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