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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by multihdrdr
It's really a "Word" when you spell it correctly..."Stiction"




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And more correctly it's what the guy is talking about is stuckon (new word) not stiction. Stiction is really short for static friction. Stuckon is really resistance from the nibble being stuck on the thread. I guess "Stickion would be for stuckon too.. But it's not all stiction..

BTW you don't have to back of all threads only the ones that are stuck.. Not hard to tell when as the wrench wants to spring back with the nipple to it's the original place. Spoke acts essentially like a torsion bar. BTW WD40 works good here. Gets rid of the stuckon.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Wheel truing is almost more "art" than science. Wheel builders have my respect. I remember doing my first wheel on my BMX bicycle, back in the early 1970's. It required patience and know how. 2 things I lacked. I ended up with a pretzel.
It's not really and art, it's more like the basics of knitting or basket weaving. You know with one colored material.. Once you understand the basics to spoke pattern lacing and truing, it becomes real easy. Ideally you want all the spoke to have the same tension on them and the wheel running true. It's not all that hard if the rim is straight to start with.. Wheels that get beat up where the rim is twisted or dings may not have constant tightness if they have to pull a bent rim straight.

I've probably laced a couple hundred wheels and have done another couple hundred simple truing with possibly replacing a few broken spokes. I will only dink the spoke to see if it's loose but once they look like need a turn on the nibble, I do them all. Sound wise, dinking doesn't work on wheels where the spokes touch as they cross.. Only doing them by sound can through the wheel off.. Then they'd drop em off at the shop..
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
...Stuckon is really resistance from the nibble being stuck on the thread. I guess "Stickion would be for stuckon too.. But it's not all stiction..
What's a "nibble"?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by multihdrdr
What's a "nibble"?
An inverted nipple...
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by multihdrdr
It's really a "Word" when you spell it correctly..."Stiction"




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haha... you know, it didn't look right.. but my brain was fuzzed... I left it as is... thanks multi
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 11:23 PM
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I have done about 1,500 bicycle spoked rims in the past 40 years. When my Ural had a recall on the rims the dealer got in the new ones and a I waited for about a week and when I checked they weren't done. I asked why and the tech said they were looking for someone that could lace wheels. I told him just give me the parts and I'll do it.

I have a trueing machine that will check both side to side and hop. Art does play a part in being one with the rim.

When doing on the bike just use a dial indicator on the rim and adjust the side to side. Work your way into it with slight adjustments as you go around never draw it fully over with one adjustment. One spoke at a time for side to side and two opposing spokes for hop.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 11:53 PM
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Sounds more like Zen than art.. Got a pic of the stand?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by archergodwin
Because of something called 'stickion'... not really a word but describes the issue. If you don't break the thread loose a little, and just try to tighten to torque, the amount of torque required to break the thread loose is often above your stated torque for the spoke ( ~55in/lb). So by backing it off first, you've broken the thread loose so that you can achieve 'real' torque.

As for the statement of tightening the spoke because they are loose and pulling the wheel out of tru... that's BS... the spoke is loose.. if the wheel was true when the spoke was tight... then putting the spoke back to torque specs when the wheel was tru, does not pull the wheel out of tru.
Having said that, you DO want to check the rest of your spokes for proper torque... which is actually really checking the tension... because spokes don't get loose by the nipple rotating, they get loose by stretching.

The ting-ting-tong method, is a good 'kick the tires and light the fires' type of check before you head off in the morning on a run... but it is something to pay attention to... the lower the 'tong' tone, the looser the spoke is... and you need to have it checked as soon as possible.

If you are going to mess with your spoked rims... get yourself a truing stand and a spoke torque wrench
Can someone tell me what the correct spoke torque value is for a 1999 Sportster 19" front wheel? Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by rellquist
Can someone tell me what the correct spoke torque value is for a 1999 Sportster 19" front wheel? Thanks
Info from my '03 FXD manual: Tighten spoke nipples to 40-50 in-lbs (4.5-5.6 Nm). Not sure what Sportster specs are. You'd better ask that in the Sportster Models Section
 
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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FXD2003Rider
Info from my '03 FXD manual: Tighten spoke nipples to 40-50 in-lbs (4.5-5.6 Nm). Not sure what Sportster specs are. You'd better ask that in the Sportster Models Section
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