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fxdwg+tw222 dyno results
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hopefully this one is actually big enough to see lol. If you look at this graph and yours we have almost identical hp and torque at 3000 rpm which just does not make since to me since we hae same pipes and u have cams and I do not. the only real difference is you have cams in a 96 and I don;t but have a 103.
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Right I understand that. I was just saying at 3000 RPM we are almost identical which 95 percent of my riding is under 3k. I talked to the OP in another thread and was about to pull the trigger on the tw-222 cams but now it looks like I am going to have to do the fuel moto 107 kit instead as I would hate to only gain 5 ft/lbs with a cam swap. His dyno graph is awesome and I relize it is a 96 but I have been told that the factory 103's dont make much more power than the 96 so wo my 103 would not be much higher than his 96 is.
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No. Unfortunately I do not have a before. I have the cams installed by a local Indy. So the before run still have the cams in it. Just was not tuned yet. But the tune did give me about 3hp and 5tq.
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Thanks lol I can't spend any more money on this thing haha with the cams, tune and a new speedo/tach I gotta hold back for a while. Also just checked for fun and your pipe is for 12+ I got an 11 bung holes on the pipes are different sizes.
From what the tuner said and from all the talk a round this forum I would not doubt it. I actually called v&h this afternoon to ask them directly how much better a 2into1 would be and they said its a fair amount, meaning more than a couple hp and tq. I would love to be on your side as I wish I had a 2-1 pipe for this reason, not a bummer cause I like my results and how it feels but I would feel a difference with a 2-1 I think from where I am now not just numbers but actual butt dyno difference.
Couple things you have to keep in mind the tq is really the only difference between the 96 and 103 the stock hp numbers are very close and the tq difference is like 5lbs or something like that. So its not a huge improvement. Also its tough to compare one dyno sheet to another to really know the difference between your bike and mine we would have to be on the same dyno. You would feel a difference for sure adding cams to your bike I would say you should see about a 10% gain on tq and hp for your bike I would say you would gain 10 or so hp and 12 or so tq just as I did. However you would would no doubt feel more with the 107 kit! Also do you have a tach? I would bet you spend more time than you think above 3k I agree crusing it more around 2k but accelerating your over 3k unless you really baby your bike.
Couple things you have to keep in mind the tq is really the only difference between the 96 and 103 the stock hp numbers are very close and the tq difference is like 5lbs or something like that. So its not a huge improvement. Also its tough to compare one dyno sheet to another to really know the difference between your bike and mine we would have to be on the same dyno. You would feel a difference for sure adding cams to your bike I would say you should see about a 10% gain on tq and hp for your bike I would say you would gain 10 or so hp and 12 or so tq just as I did. However you would would no doubt feel more with the 107 kit! Also do you have a tach? I would bet you spend more time than you think above 3k I agree crusing it more around 2k but accelerating your over 3k unless you really baby your bike.
Right I understand that. I was just saying at 3000 RPM we are almost identical which 95 percent of my riding is under 3k. I talked to the OP in another thread and was about to pull the trigger on the tw-222 cams but now it looks like I am going to have to do the fuel moto 107 kit instead as I would hate to only gain 5 ft/lbs with a cam swap. His dyno graph is awesome and I relize it is a 96 but I have been told that the factory 103's dont make much more power than the 96 so wo my 103 would not be much higher than his 96 is.
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Yes I have a tach I am very rarely ever above 3k. I shift at 20,30,40,50,60 unless I am taking off on a long hill then its 25,35,45,55,65. Yes I open her up sometimes but noton a regular basis like maybe once a week. I would be happy with a 10 percent increase on torque that would put me at about 105 ft/lbs.
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Yeah you would gain roughly 10% with a good tune, you would really only know the exact difference by having it dyno'd right before the cam install and then right after on the same dyno with the same calibration to really see exacts. But one thing is for sure you will notice a difference on the butt dyno I noticed more from stage 1 now to stage 2 than from stock to stage 1. And just for a close the deal comment for you on the 222 it pulls HARD right fromt he turn of the throttle not sure your going to find a better low to mid range rpm cam I looked around a lot some will compare close but I am not sure you will find one better IMO unless you were looking for say mid to high rpm gains then this cam could and would be beaten there.
Yes I have a tach I am very rarely ever above 3k. I shift at 20,30,40,50,60 unless I am taking off on a long hill then its 25,35,45,55,65. Yes I open her up sometimes but noton a regular basis like maybe once a week. I would be happy with a 10 percent increase on torque that would put me at about 105 ft/lbs.
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Yes I did its a great jump according to my butt dyno. Its waaaaay cheaper than the 107 kit thats for sure. But the 107 would be a much bigger difference too. Don't just take my word for it call up fuel moto if you want and ask them what you should expect from just the 222 cam. more money more faster lol