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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JRK5892
my bike is slammed about as low as you can go and i can hold my own with anyone in the turns...
I'm wonderin' about that, because I've managed to scrape the frame even with 12.5 inch shocks, and when you put hard parts against the pavement, you're pretty much done on cornering speed.

I think you do some great powdercoating though, from the photos I've seen....

When asked for prices on shock shortening, rather than asking people to PM for a price, maybe you could answer on the forum. "PM for prices" means danger, at least to me, because other people can't comment on the price.
Maybe you could also explain how it's done, for us nerd technical types who need to know before making a decision. Do you shorten the springs, shorten the shaft, or what?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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I lowered mine with 1.5 inch blocks. I like the feel a little bit better actually. Never saw any diff in performance, but I'm not a hot dogger. Way cheaper, so if you don't like it you not out much $$.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'm wonderin' about that, because I've managed to scrape the frame even with 12.5 inch shocks, and when you put hard parts against the pavement, you're pretty much done on cornering speed.

I think you do some great powdercoating though, from the photos I've seen....

When asked for prices on shock shortening, rather than asking people to PM for a price, maybe you could answer on the forum. "PM for prices" means danger, at least to me, because other people can't comment on the price.
Maybe you could also explain how it's done, for us nerd technical types who need to know before making a decision. Do you shorten the springs, shorten the shaft, or what?
I do trust Joe. He's helped me out. I would imagine he would want to PM to see what he wants powdered, how low and what color etc.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WideGlideFever
Thanks for the replies guys, I figured they had to be some functioning difference, just dont have an engineering mind so couldnt figure it out.
Fever, it's just basic math. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you lower your bike way down with a pair of Burley 10.5" shocks (for example), you are limiting the performance capabilities of your motorcycle, and your ride will suffer. That's just a fact.

A good pair of shocks are going to provide you with two very important things…ground clearance, and a comfortable ride. First off, when you lower your bike with those short Burley shocks, you're decreasing your ground clearance. When you decrease your ground clearance, you will decrease the lean angle capability of your bike because something on your bike will contact the ground when you lean past a certain point (a lot sooner than a normal length shock). Case in point: my friend's custom chopper is slammed real low, and every time I leaned it past about 15 degrees left, the kickstand would drag on the ground. I thought the handling sucked, and my old FXR with an almost stock 80" Evo motor and suspension would eat his lunch on any kind of twisty road.

Secondly, the suspension travel on those 10.5" Burleys is close to nil. Without any suspension travel, your ride quality will suffer. If those shocks aren't absorbing those potholes, etc (when they bottom out) with their 1/2 to 1" of travel…what do you think is? Your *** and your back are, that's what.

If you can even adjust those shocks compression and rebound damping (I don't think Burley has those adjustments) not to bottom out with their limited travel, you'll feel like you're riding a hard tail.

Let's face facts…guys that slam their bikes way down to the ground are doing it for a certain look. Hell, I think it looks pretty cool too, but let's be realistic here…they aren't doing it to improve the handling characteristics of the bike. The bike's handling and comfort levels are compromised. You just have to decide if it's right for you.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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The Burlys do have adjustments. Now would I use them if I carried passengers? Probably not. To compensate for the extra weight you would have to dial them up I think which would mean a stiffer ride. I don't have to worry about that and I have them on the softest setting.
 

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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And in defense to Bronson's post, if you want it lowered, the wheel has to go closer to the fender. Period.
 
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Originally Posted by Robbie13
The Burlys do have adjustments. Now would I use them if I carried passengers? Probably not. To compensate for the extra weight you would have to dial them up I think which would mean a stiffer ride. I don't have to worry about that and I have them on the softest setting.
Robbie,

I'm guessing that Burley has a "preload" adjuster, and not a compression/rebound (or sweep valve) adjuster.

The only thing a preload adjuster does is adjust your sag (ride height) on the bike. It doesn't affect compression or rebound damping in any way, shape or form.

I don't even know how you'd adjust the sag on a bike with only 1" of suspension travel…seems ridiculous.

Sorry, I'm not picking on Burley shocks in particular…just using them as an example in this case.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Then Came Bronson
Robbie,

I'm guessing that Burley has a "preload" adjuster, and not a compression/rebound (or sweep valve) adjuster.

The only thing a preload adjuster does is adjust your sag (ride height) on the bike. It doesn't affect compression or rebound damping in any way, shape or form.

I don't even know how you'd adjust the sag on a bike with only 1" of suspension travel…seems ridiculous.

Sorry, I'm not picking on Burley shocks in particular…just using them as an example in this case.
No offense taken. But keep in mind my bike. No passengers. And lowered on the most soft setting. All I have to go by. For my situation they work for me and I am pleased with them. That being said I don't have to deal with the added weight of a passenger. I can handle my bike just as I did with the stock shocks. So the OP needs to decide if this is something he needs to consider.
 
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FWIW I was taking 40-20mph turns today at 30mph on my Burly equipped WG without scraping...well I did on one turn, but I'm happy with that.
 
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Originally Posted by WideGlideFever
Was just curious what the difference would be in going with shorter shocks such as Burleys than lowering blocks.

Is there a big difference in the ride?

Thanks!
Here is a LINK where you can look at lowering blocks and weight limitations when using them.

I have used them with air shocks, coil over shocks and struts. Never had a problem.
 
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