Looking for some shock info
Saw a guy on a sporty that had his Nitro springs coated black, makes me wonder if you could special order them that way from Hagon for a few extra bucks
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From: The Whale's Vagina
...Don't put too much stock into a shock "custom made for your weight and riding style". That's a bunch of marketing crap. Yes the spring rate is chosen for your ride. But the valving is pretty much what you get if it's non-adjustable, and if it's adjustable, you turn the clickers and make the adjustments.
Damn, I wish I had known. I would've told them to take all that help and shove it.
BTW, Hagons are also rebuildable.
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From: Virginia
Really? So while I was at Hagon, and Billy and Christina advised me on the right length of shocks for the kind of ride I wanted, then tried out 3 different weight springs (each swapped out on the shocks, then installed on the bike so they could measure the sag with me on it), then let me road test them around the block a few times...I was just getting fed a bunch of marketing crap?
Damn, I wish I had known. I would've told them to take all that help and shove it.
BTW, Hagons are also rebuildable.
Damn, I wish I had known. I would've told them to take all that help and shove it.
BTW, Hagons are also rebuildable.
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From: Meridianville, AL
SquidHead, spring selection is pretty much all you get when you buy a shock. Nothing inherently wrong with that, it is very important to have the correct spring o your bike.
What zimm was saying, I think; the internal valving, the stuff that determines the damping characteristics is typically a one-size-fits-all.
The folks at Hagon, by setting the sag with the correct spring for you, set your bike up,for YOU. No marketing crap at all.
Though unless they went into the shock and changed the valve and/or shim stack, the work they did is standard set up stuff you'd get from any reputable suspension dealer.
p.s. Don't forget to change your fork springs too, and while you are in there, flush and refresh the fork oil.
What zimm was saying, I think; the internal valving, the stuff that determines the damping characteristics is typically a one-size-fits-all.
The folks at Hagon, by setting the sag with the correct spring for you, set your bike up,for YOU. No marketing crap at all.
Though unless they went into the shock and changed the valve and/or shim stack, the work they did is standard set up stuff you'd get from any reputable suspension dealer.
p.s. Don't forget to change your fork springs too, and while you are in there, flush and refresh the fork oil.
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From: The Whale's Vagina
That's exactly what I meant- you can get the right spring rate for your weight. You can get the right length. You can get adjustable valving. What I meant is the the marketing approach of "custom built for your riding style" and you open the box on a set of shocks with standard valving and the pre-load still needs to be set. My point is that you can mail order a set and be fine. Not too many of us can go the dealer and try out different weight springs- that's pretty cool.
If you're willing to ride to their shop in Carlsbad, they will take good care of you. Every time I've been there, there's a customer with a bike on a stand getting fitted. No extra charge either. They just make sure you're the one who does the final install before you ride off (liability).
SquidHead, spring selection is pretty much all you get when you buy a shock. Nothing inherently wrong with that, it is very important to have the correct spring o your bike.
What zimm was saying, I think; the internal valving, the stuff that determines the damping characteristics is typically a one-size-fits-all.
The folks at Hagon, by setting the sag with the correct spring for you, set your bike up,for YOU. No marketing crap at all.
Though unless they went into the shock and changed the valve and/or shim stack, the work they did is standard set up stuff you'd get from any reputable suspension dealer.
p.s. Don't forget to change your fork springs too, and while you are in there, flush and refresh the fork oil.
What zimm was saying, I think; the internal valving, the stuff that determines the damping characteristics is typically a one-size-fits-all.
The folks at Hagon, by setting the sag with the correct spring for you, set your bike up,for YOU. No marketing crap at all.
Though unless they went into the shock and changed the valve and/or shim stack, the work they did is standard set up stuff you'd get from any reputable suspension dealer.
p.s. Don't forget to change your fork springs too, and while you are in there, flush and refresh the fork oil.
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I spent 6 months deciding on shocks...there are many choices. I didn't want progressives as there is a large percentage of people that just aren't happy with them even though anything will be better then the stock shocks.
I ended up with ricors...they were in the 600 dollar range and that is where I wanted to be at with my budget. I'm sure the ohlins and JRI's are better but I just didn't want to spend more then that.
I am very happy with the ride solo and 2 up. They are hand adjustable and I have never bottomed out and never feel a "jolt" over railroad tracks or any other potholes like I felt with the stock shocks. My wife wasn't thrilled about me spending even that much money on shocks until she rode on the back the first time.
I ended up getting the 12 1/2" sport shocks
I ended up with ricors...they were in the 600 dollar range and that is where I wanted to be at with my budget. I'm sure the ohlins and JRI's are better but I just didn't want to spend more then that.
I am very happy with the ride solo and 2 up. They are hand adjustable and I have never bottomed out and never feel a "jolt" over railroad tracks or any other potholes like I felt with the stock shocks. My wife wasn't thrilled about me spending even that much money on shocks until she rode on the back the first time.
I ended up getting the 12 1/2" sport shocks
Upgraded shocks are on my wish list. I've got Progressive 412's that I bought right after I bought the bike, didn't really do any research, which was a relative waste of money. My big thing is I want good performing shocks that look stock. I like the traditional look of the stock shocks.
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From: Spicewood
I have been considering Terry Cable shocks as they have good reports on performance. To me they look like they belong on a harley. I'm a chrome guy though. If ohlins we're not gold and yellow, I'd spend the money, but I can't do those colors.
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From: New Braunfels, Texas
I'm a chrome guy too but never cared for chrome shocks. I would never buy the yellow ohlins...you would think for that price they would offer colors. I know it shouldn't matter since they are for performance but it does.
I love the way the JRI's look. The ricors worked for me in ride and the way they look.
I do have to say the 970 progressives look bad *** and are probably a pretty good shock. Only progressive I would even consider
I love the way the JRI's look. The ricors worked for me in ride and the way they look.
I do have to say the 970 progressives look bad *** and are probably a pretty good shock. Only progressive I would even consider