Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
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Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
I know there was a discussion topic on this, but I haven't been able to find it with various search topics.
I have a '04 FDXI. I want to change from a 19" spoke to 21" spoke wheel. I want to keep the original "narrow" hub and just get a 21"rim & the correct spokes if at all possible.
I checked with several dealers, two I trust (Latus & Zanotti's) and one says it can be done on the other says it cann't. I'm thinking that the #43057-80B 21" spoke/nipple kit and the #43662-80B 21" rim are what I need.
I thought I read on the fourm that it can be done and the parts were listed. I haven't been able to find the thread. If at all possible I would like to hear from someone that has gone through it. I would prefer keeping the hub I have and not have to go through using the FXDWG hub/wheel assemblyand play around with a bunch of different spacers if at all possible.
Thanks in advance for any help/pointers,.
Ron W
I have a '04 FDXI. I want to change from a 19" spoke to 21" spoke wheel. I want to keep the original "narrow" hub and just get a 21"rim & the correct spokes if at all possible.
I checked with several dealers, two I trust (Latus & Zanotti's) and one says it can be done on the other says it cann't. I'm thinking that the #43057-80B 21" spoke/nipple kit and the #43662-80B 21" rim are what I need.
I thought I read on the fourm that it can be done and the parts were listed. I haven't been able to find the thread. If at all possible I would like to hear from someone that has gone through it. I would prefer keeping the hub I have and not have to go through using the FXDWG hub/wheel assemblyand play around with a bunch of different spacers if at all possible.
Thanks in advance for any help/pointers,.
Ron W
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
Certainly it can be done. Since you already have the hub, this an even easier task.
Basically all you have to do is take your old wheel apart, buy new spokes and the 21 inch rim of your choice and relace the wheel.
For a dealer to say that this cannot be done is just unbelievable to me. I would never deal with a shop who gave me that line of BS.
You are going to have a choice of rims: Aluminum or chromed steel, or perhaps painted.
Likewise a choice of spokes and nipples: Cad plated, chrome plated, stainless steel, or polished stainless steel.
The sub menu below that is twisted spokes. normal spokes and whatever other varients these suppliers have come up with. Me, I'd recommend a regular spoke.
I just finished building my 21 inch front wheel. I had a cast wheel on the Dyna and I had to find a late model Sportster aluminum hub on Ebay. You are ahead because you already have the narrow hub.
I wanted an Aluminum Ankrondt rim and was not about to substitute anything else for that. I bought mine from J&P Cycles. (I personally just do not like chrome...it rusts and flakes over time)
For the spokes and nipples there is only one place I buy from: Bucanan Spokes in LA area. They deal only in spokes, nipples etc. Call them up and tell them what you have for a rim and hub and they will tell you what spoke set you need.
I bought a set of stainless (polished) spokes for my wheel. These are priced high because stainless is not cheap. (J&P does not carry the spokes I needed) The polish feature was about another $1 per spoke as I recall. But, you get what you pay for. My wheel turned out so nice that I did not want to use it at first. Very pretty, and building it yourself gives much satisfaction.
A word of caution here: If you are not going to do the build yourself, then buy your rim and spoke set thru whoever is going to do your build. Don't buy the parts yourself and then show up expecting the guy to simply lace your parts together. That is not how he makes his money.
I encourage everyone to do their on building, but very few take me up on that. I guess people think it is so complex, but actually it is simple as dirt.
Let us know what progress you make with the wheel.......pg
Basically all you have to do is take your old wheel apart, buy new spokes and the 21 inch rim of your choice and relace the wheel.
For a dealer to say that this cannot be done is just unbelievable to me. I would never deal with a shop who gave me that line of BS.
You are going to have a choice of rims: Aluminum or chromed steel, or perhaps painted.
Likewise a choice of spokes and nipples: Cad plated, chrome plated, stainless steel, or polished stainless steel.
The sub menu below that is twisted spokes. normal spokes and whatever other varients these suppliers have come up with. Me, I'd recommend a regular spoke.
I just finished building my 21 inch front wheel. I had a cast wheel on the Dyna and I had to find a late model Sportster aluminum hub on Ebay. You are ahead because you already have the narrow hub.
I wanted an Aluminum Ankrondt rim and was not about to substitute anything else for that. I bought mine from J&P Cycles. (I personally just do not like chrome...it rusts and flakes over time)
For the spokes and nipples there is only one place I buy from: Bucanan Spokes in LA area. They deal only in spokes, nipples etc. Call them up and tell them what you have for a rim and hub and they will tell you what spoke set you need.
I bought a set of stainless (polished) spokes for my wheel. These are priced high because stainless is not cheap. (J&P does not carry the spokes I needed) The polish feature was about another $1 per spoke as I recall. But, you get what you pay for. My wheel turned out so nice that I did not want to use it at first. Very pretty, and building it yourself gives much satisfaction.
A word of caution here: If you are not going to do the build yourself, then buy your rim and spoke set thru whoever is going to do your build. Don't buy the parts yourself and then show up expecting the guy to simply lace your parts together. That is not how he makes his money.
I encourage everyone to do their on building, but very few take me up on that. I guess people think it is so complex, but actually it is simple as dirt.
Let us know what progress you make with the wheel.......pg
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
piniongear, do you have a good referal for where to buy hubs , spokes and rims and a resonable price to be self constructed. i love doin sht like that. does it make the cost of the wheels drop considerably? i like my powdered alloys but im gettin bored. nothing more satisfying then doing a job and building something yourself.
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
Bax....
I do not have any sources that are cheap. I had to search awhile get to find my hub on Ebay. I wanted stainless spokes and nipples so I went to Bucanan. I have gone to Bucanan for stainless spokes to build both wheels on my old Sporty. The quality of their spokes is without equal in my opinion.
Stainless cost money, but you only have to buy them once. That material is a breeze to keep clean and it will never dull, rust or flake off like something that is chromed plated.
I buy Ankrondt rims because I like the aluminum rim and I like the quality. I have had a couple disagreements here on the forum over this. The important point is most people do not want to build their own wheels. They want to go out and buy a chrome plated hub, a chrome plated rim and chrome plated spokes for $149 all put together, and in most cases they have a dealer bolt it on for them.
That's fine, if that's what they want....they can have it. I dropped $156 for a set of 40 spokes/nipples without blinking with Bucanan. Then I had to get the rim which was another $215, not to mention the Sportster hub.
So I had $421 in parts sitting there on the table unbuilt. Building cost me nothing but some very enjoyable time.
So, in the end I compare my wheel to that guy who bought an all chrome wheel for a hundred and forty-nine bucks that was made in some fourth world country and will soon be rusty.
Every time I look at my quality wheel I think the $250 extra I invested was money well spent. I know how I would feel if it were a chrome one.
Another point that this holds for me is this: I have yet to see another Dyna with a like 21 inch wheel on the front end. Being a little different with how we build our bikes is a great part of owning and riding to me. It's all about pride.....pg
I do not have any sources that are cheap. I had to search awhile get to find my hub on Ebay. I wanted stainless spokes and nipples so I went to Bucanan. I have gone to Bucanan for stainless spokes to build both wheels on my old Sporty. The quality of their spokes is without equal in my opinion.
Stainless cost money, but you only have to buy them once. That material is a breeze to keep clean and it will never dull, rust or flake off like something that is chromed plated.
I buy Ankrondt rims because I like the aluminum rim and I like the quality. I have had a couple disagreements here on the forum over this. The important point is most people do not want to build their own wheels. They want to go out and buy a chrome plated hub, a chrome plated rim and chrome plated spokes for $149 all put together, and in most cases they have a dealer bolt it on for them.
That's fine, if that's what they want....they can have it. I dropped $156 for a set of 40 spokes/nipples without blinking with Bucanan. Then I had to get the rim which was another $215, not to mention the Sportster hub.
So I had $421 in parts sitting there on the table unbuilt. Building cost me nothing but some very enjoyable time.
So, in the end I compare my wheel to that guy who bought an all chrome wheel for a hundred and forty-nine bucks that was made in some fourth world country and will soon be rusty.
Every time I look at my quality wheel I think the $250 extra I invested was money well spent. I know how I would feel if it were a chrome one.
Another point that this holds for me is this: I have yet to see another Dyna with a like 21 inch wheel on the front end. Being a little different with how we build our bikes is a great part of owning and riding to me. It's all about pride.....pg
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
thanks for the info pinion, im keeping thatforprojects for next winter, its alil pricey for me now and i like to pay cash for stuff and feel better rather then throw it ona card and pay later. still waiting for parts for this winters (now spring project thanks to unexpected surgery) to come in. just gave me something to look forard to for next winter other then cabin fever and depression ,haha, thanks
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
Heard that Bax. The mail has picked up recently. You can tell spring is coming by the banter back and forth. Especially for you guys up in the snow country.
Ride well.......pg
Ride well.......pg
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
Find a 21" wheel & tire set up with chrome spokes on eBay for a Sportster. Sportster's have the same Narrow Glide front end as yours, so it would be a simple bolt in. Then sell your original wheel / tire set up. (may end up costing you almost nothing)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/21-X-...QQcmdZViewItem
Also contact Buttman1000 for the details, he already put a Sportster wheel on his Dyna, see post #4:https://www.hdforums.com/m_1173893/tm.htm
There's more information on the "other" forum http://www.*****************/forums/sh...d.php?t=101188
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/21-X-...QQcmdZViewItem
Also contact Buttman1000 for the details, he already put a Sportster wheel on his Dyna, see post #4:https://www.hdforums.com/m_1173893/tm.htm
There's more information on the "other" forum http://www.*****************/forums/sh...d.php?t=101188
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
Well if pnw05ss buys a Sportster wheel and finds out that the axle size is not the same as his current wheel he is going to be one disappointed dude.
H-D changed up the axle diameters in 2004 and you better consider that when a recommendation is made......pg
H-D changed up the axle diameters in 2004 and you better consider that when a recommendation is made......pg
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RE: Yes - Another 19-21" wheel Conversion Question
That's right.........Read post #4 https://www.hdforums.com/m_1374807/tm.htm
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Thanks for the info. I have a note into Buchanan's asking what spoke kit of theirs or spoke length is needed. So far, no response. The local stealers are of no help. The parts folks are about as worthless as they are at Shucks or PepBoys around here. If its not in the parts book, they haven't a clue.They can't even tell me what the spoke length is for the H-D #43057-80B kit is.I think I canadd 1" to my existing spoke length to get anidea of how long they need to be. A local MC surplus shop here has a newAmerican Rim 80-spoke/21" w/dual disk capability for $350 that may just be my best bet. That way, if I decide to upgrade to the dual brake setup, I can switch back and forth between spoke, cast/chrome if I want to. I think the 80-spoke front would look OK with a 40-spoke rear.