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Old Apr 15, 2014 | 11:44 PM
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Back in sept 2012 I dyno'd my 96" with woods tw6-6 cams ness big sucker and d&d fatcat (std baffle) the results were 93hp/98tq.
I thought these numbers were fantastic for just cams pipes etc

Since then I've added a revolution cycles 106 big bore kit and minor headwork done by wink eller.
today I finally had my bike dyno tuned. The results to say the least were disappointing.
95hp/105tq

Idk what went wrong these numbers are way too low.




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What was the compression ratio on the pistons installed with the kit? Also, headwork to the combustion chamber will lower the compression ratio futher. If just porting the runners, shouldn't affect it. Ive talked to Fuelmoto about cams an ALOT of the woods cams beyond the Tw-222 and Tw-555 NEED higher compression to get the most benefit of the cams. 10.5:1 was the ratio that seemed to be most relevant.
 
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Stupid question....Did you have the bike dynoed both times at the same place? If so, were they using the same correction? (i.e. sae, std, etc)
 
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What was the compression ratio on the pistons installed with the kit? Also, headwork to the combustion chamber will lower the compression ratio futher. If just porting the runners, shouldn't affect it. Ive talked to Fuelmoto about cams an ALOT of the woods cams beyond the Tw-222 and Tw-555 NEED higher compression to get the most benefit of the cams. 10.5:1 was the ratio that seemed to be most relevant.
The combustion chamber wasn't touched, the ports were cleaned up (light headwork). The kit is supposed to be 10:1 and the head gasket was .040" should of went .030
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 07:48 AM
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Stupid question....Did you have the bike dynoed both times at the same place? If so, were they using the same correction? (i.e. sae, std, etc)
Yes the dyno was done by the same shop, the dyno sheet says correction is STD
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Yeah, you are right, not impressive at all. With headwork, you got to pass the 100 mark.
That's why I like to get parts from one developer, at least they know what a good combination is. I don't know what else to say

Originally Posted by 07bobber
Back in sept 2012 I dyno'd my 96" with woods tw6-6 cams ness big sucker and d&d fatcat (std baffle) the results were 93hp/98tq.
I thought these numbers were fantastic for just cams pipes etc

Since then I've added a revolution cycles 106 big bore kit and minor headwork done by wink eller.
today I finally had my bike dyno tuned. The results to say the least were disappointing.
95hp/105tq

Idk what went wrong these numbers are way too low.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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106 kit? ...Maybe its true, "size ain't everything" ....... na
 
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So I talked to the mfr of the big bore kit, and he thinks the kit either isn't broke in all the way (BS imo) or because the springs in the heads are robbing power because the were set up to run up to .600 lift.

Im gonna tear down the motor after Laughlin...
 

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Originally Posted by 07bobber
So I talked to the mfr of the big bore kit, and he thinks the kit either isn't broke in all the way (BS imo) or because the springs in the heads are robbing power because the were set up to run up to .600 lift.

Im gonna tear down the motor after Laughlin...
Yeah I don't buy either of those either. Have you calculated the compression ratio using the Big Boyz Calculator? You will need deck height and other info. Most stock deck heights are around .008" in the hole and if you add a .040" head gasket then the quench is getting too big. A .030" or .027" should help you get the compression up - let me know if you need some .027" Cometic hgs.
 
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Yeah I don't buy either of those either. Have you calculated the compression ratio using the Big Boyz Calculator? You will need deck height and other info. Most stock deck heights are around .008" in the hole and if you add a .040" head gasket then the quench is getting too big. A .030" or .027" should help you get the compression up - let me know if you need some .027" Cometic hgs.
I did use their calculator and the compression is supposed to be around 185, I checked compression and I think the gauge was bad since it gave the same reading on 3 different bikes (115 psi) and I haven't checked it since.

I checked deck height and it was around .010


once I get her apart im gonna recheck everything and ill get back at you for gaskets, I might as well get the heads decked while im at it...
 

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