Speed Merchant mono bloc radial caliper bracket install on 06-newer dyna (tech pics)
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Know this is an old thread but I'm putting together a dual caliper set up with the gsxr calipers and was wondering do the banjo bolt and brake line fitting bolt right up or do you need a different fitting?
I'm going with the newer calipers but the banjo bolt size should be the same.
I'm going with the newer calipers but the banjo bolt size should be the same.
You'll probably want braided lines anyway, as they really provide better lever feel than rubber (which will help modulate your new anchors).
In terms of fluid, I got a zillion different opinions about using DOT 4 or 5. I don't know what your application is, but my 2000 uses DOT 5, whereas the Tokicos use DOT 4. Everyone agrees that DOT 4 has some real advantages, but Speed Merchant told me that the seals in the caliper would most likely adapt to DOT 5 more easily than the seals in my master cylinder would adapt to DOT 4 (unless you're rebuilding the MC with fresh seals, I suppose). There's also the added benefit of retaining the non-corrosive qualities of DOT 5, so spilling a little bit on paint is not disastrous. I ran a bunch of denatured alcohol through the calipers, followed by a bunch of air.
I'm very happy with the result.
Last edited by F86; Dec 20, 2016 at 01:55 PM.
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Thanks (assuming you were talkin' to me)!
OP: If helpful, here's the thread from when I did mine: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...swap-done.html
OP: If helpful, here's the thread from when I did mine: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...swap-done.html
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Curiosity, website states spokes cannot be run with a narrow glide front end. Does that mean it will work with 49mm forks and spoked rims? I did dual touring brembos on my 1250 XL and I'm missing the braking feel on my Street Bob, sport bike calipers seem to fit my need.
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Curiosity, website states spokes cannot be run with a narrow glide front end. Does that mean it will work with 49mm forks and spoked rims? I did dual touring brembos on my 1250 XL and I'm missing the braking feel on my Street Bob, sport bike calipers seem to fit my need.
I assume you mean that Speed Merchant says the caliper brackets can't be used with spokes on a narrow glide (plenty of narrow glides have spokes). The only two cents I can chip in here (since I don't have spokes) is that the clearance between the caliper and the spokes on factory alloy wheels is EXTREMELY tight... If the spokes are further outboard of the centerline (compared to the alloys) in the area where the caliper sits, I'm sure there would be interference.
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I talked directly to speed merchant and confirmed that spokes will clear with mid glide trees since that's what I run at the moment. I will be going with 2011-16 gsxr calipers which are brembo's not the tokico's. They also confirmed these will fit but I may have to shim them a bit with the included shims.
Thanks for the info on the lines, I was looking at picking up one of the build your own brake line kits and doing it that way with stainless lines but was wondering about the banjo fittings. Ill have to look into the lines you used and will probably go that route instead. I already run braided lines but I am obviously upgrading farther for more stopping power, I'm a big boy and I ride hard finding out you don't have the brakes you thought you did is always an eye opener.
Bike looks good where'd you get that carbon fender?
Thanks for the info on the lines, I was looking at picking up one of the build your own brake line kits and doing it that way with stainless lines but was wondering about the banjo fittings. Ill have to look into the lines you used and will probably go that route instead. I already run braided lines but I am obviously upgrading farther for more stopping power, I'm a big boy and I ride hard finding out you don't have the brakes you thought you did is always an eye opener.
Bike looks good where'd you get that carbon fender?
Last edited by kbiker76; Dec 20, 2016 at 09:14 PM.
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I think it would be a safe assumption to think that the brackets would work with the Mid-glide laced spokes ("49mm forks"). The hub (rotor-to-rotor) is approx 5/8" wider (~5/16" per side) than the Narrow-glide hub = increased caliper clearance.
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I talked directly to speed merchant and confirmed that spokes will clear with mid glide trees since that's what I run at the moment. I will be going with 2011-16 gsxr calipers which are brembo's not the tokico's. They also confirmed these will fit but I may have to shim them a bit with the included shims.
Thanks for the info on the lines, I was looking at picking up one of the build your own brake line kits and doing it that way with stainless lines but was wondering about the banjo fittings. Ill have to look into the lines you used and will probably go that route instead. I already run braided lines but I am obviously upgrading farther for more stopping power, I'm a big boy and I ride hard finding out you don't have the brakes you thought you did is always an eye opener.
Bike looks good where'd you get that carbon fender?
Thanks for the info on the lines, I was looking at picking up one of the build your own brake line kits and doing it that way with stainless lines but was wondering about the banjo fittings. Ill have to look into the lines you used and will probably go that route instead. I already run braided lines but I am obviously upgrading farther for more stopping power, I'm a big boy and I ride hard finding out you don't have the brakes you thought you did is always an eye opener.
Bike looks good where'd you get that carbon fender?
Thanks, the fender is from Deviant Fabrications.
One thing to keep in mind... I don't now what your current brake setup is, but it's possible that you will experience much better brake feel after this swap, but not necessarily shorter stopping distances. If you already have dual disks and you aren't increasing the rotor diameter, the swept area of pad-to-rotor contact will be pretty much the same as it already is. My brakes definitely feel much better than stock, but I think the move to stickier tires made a bigger contribution to actual stopping distances than the caliper swap did (Avon Cobras in my case). Speed Merchant also makes a bracket for 13" rotors, which I've thought about (mine are 11.5")... But I haven't found a lot of good options for floating 13" disks that will fit on stock rims. A bigger-rotor-upgrade is definitely in my imaginary shopping cart, though!
Good luck with your swap!
PS: Spiegler were great to work with for the lines!
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Thanks, the fender is from Deviant Fabrications.
One thing to keep in mind... I don't now what your current brake setup is, but it's possible that you will experience much better brake feel after this swap, but not necessarily shorter stopping distances. If you already have dual disks and you aren't increasing the rotor diameter, the swept area of pad-to-rotor contact will be pretty much the same as it already is. My brakes definitely feel much better than stock, but I think the move to stickier tires made a bigger contribution to actual stopping distances than the caliper swap did (Avon Cobras in my case). Speed Merchant also makes a bracket for 13" rotors, which I've thought about (mine are 11.5")... But I haven't found a lot of good options for floating 13" disks that will fit on stock rims. A bigger-rotor-upgrade is definitely in my imaginary shopping cart, though!
Good luck with your swap!
PS: Spiegler were great to work with for the lines!
One thing to keep in mind... I don't now what your current brake setup is, but it's possible that you will experience much better brake feel after this swap, but not necessarily shorter stopping distances. If you already have dual disks and you aren't increasing the rotor diameter, the swept area of pad-to-rotor contact will be pretty much the same as it already is. My brakes definitely feel much better than stock, but I think the move to stickier tires made a bigger contribution to actual stopping distances than the caliper swap did (Avon Cobras in my case). Speed Merchant also makes a bracket for 13" rotors, which I've thought about (mine are 11.5")... But I haven't found a lot of good options for floating 13" disks that will fit on stock rims. A bigger-rotor-upgrade is definitely in my imaginary shopping cart, though!
Good luck with your swap!
PS: Spiegler were great to work with for the lines!
I will be swapping to mags here at some point so I'm not sure what I'm going to do for rotors as I have had my eye on the 2014 and up low rider mags. Probably just stick with stock floating rotors for now until I decide what I'd doing for wheels. Ive been running michelin commander 2's and love them but I am leaning towards the Avons Cobras when I pick up a set of mags.
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Tokico accepts metric banjo bolts, M10x1.25 i believe. I f@#$d up one caliper by jamming SAE bango bolt in
Know this is an old thread but I'm putting together a dual caliper set up with the gsxr calipers and was wondering do the banjo bolt and brake line fitting bolt right up or do you need a different fitting?
I'm going with the newer calipers but the banjo bolt size should be the same.
I'm going with the newer calipers but the banjo bolt size should be the same.