Rolling Burnout...
Road Master
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From: CT
I must have the wrong bike. I have a 08 FXDC and if I am parked in oil or sand I might get the tire to spin. Other than that this is the slowest most under powered bike I have ever owned. It is all stock except slip ons. What mods are you guys doing to get any power out of these?.
*BTW I know how to use the clutch and ride aggressive. Raced motorcycles for years. It's the bike
*BTW I know how to use the clutch and ride aggressive. Raced motorcycles for years. It's the bike
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: Chicago
Okay...not trying to be a "buzz kill", but the damage you are doing to yer whole drive train is cumulative! Start at the compensator and work your way back to the primary chain then the clutch and all its parts and then the transmission and related bearings! Belt ****** can be a problem, not to mention your tire! Once you get it broke loose, it's not too hard on everything...it's the braking loose part that is stressful! If that is the way you want to enjoy your ride, and have deep pockets...then more (power) to you!
Reading everyones concern with JUST the rubber had me worried until I read this post. Glad someone cleared it up. Also not trying to be a buzz kill but internals of Harleys are based on very old technology. Not to mention use pretty sub par bearings. The flywheel is just pressed on to the crank pin and are known to get out of balance quite easily. This causes newer bikes with automatic primary chain tensioners to over tension therefore causing an overlaod on main bearing. The run out also can hurt cam plate, oil pump, cam tenioners and so on. So by all means have fun just be prepared to possibly spend some serious coin or get good at working on your bike. Again just trying to inform not preach!!
Gsxr's
Yes they are painfully slow stock, but can be woken up easily. A big bore 103 or 107, set of good cams, have the heads cleaned up and a good pipe. That'll be good for 100-105 hp, 115ft lbs and can be done on the cheap. Se clutch spring and 30/70 gearing and it'll be a blast to ride and reliable. Mine would wheelie through 3 gears to 80+mph when it was only 100/100. Now it would scare the **** out of most riders. A lot of people think you simply can't make a Harley fast and blah blah blah. A truly fast Harley is unlike anything else, until you've ridden one it's hard to understand. My Harley makes about 20hp more than say a gixxer 750, but does it in half the rpm with twice the torque. Best way to put it is violent.
to the OP, if you could watch your crankshaft twist as it breaks the rear tire loose you would realize that you will only get so many burnouts before the big bang $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Tourer
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: Bay Area, Cali
ahh come on now, I was a crotch rocket maniac for years. I have crossed over, and love HD but the bike just isn't capable of doing anything even remotely similar to the jap bikes. you are correct in one statement, put my wide glide into a sweeper at speed and the bike does get violent!.
to the OP, if you could watch your crankshaft twist as it breaks the rear tire loose you would realize that you will only get so many burnouts before the big bang $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
to the OP, if you could watch your crankshaft twist as it breaks the rear tire loose you would realize that you will only get so many burnouts before the big bang $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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Tourer
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From: Atlanta
Don't use the front brake at all. Get it rolling about 5 mph so your stable, pull clutch in, rev it up, dump it, hang on. I recommend trying a dirt bike in some gravel a few times first to get the feel of it.
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Tourer
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From: Atlanta
Shhhh, don't tell them that...
Everyone thinks that it is just tires or the drive belt, just like the OP. "The rubber parts..."
They will learn quickly enough about the "speed tax" as we used to call it. There is a reason dragsters have an engine rebuild after every race.
Tires are cheap. The rest of the drive train gets expensive fast. Sooner or later **** will start breaking and those things aren't cheap to fix.
The way he worded his first post tells me he probably hasn't had an engine disassembled on the bench before. He will get his opportunity...
I love guys like the OP. They are a blast to watch and the entertainment is free for me. Sometimes you even get see the bonus when something breaks or goes horribly wrong.
Everyone thinks that it is just tires or the drive belt, just like the OP. "The rubber parts..."
They will learn quickly enough about the "speed tax" as we used to call it. There is a reason dragsters have an engine rebuild after every race.
Tires are cheap. The rest of the drive train gets expensive fast. Sooner or later **** will start breaking and those things aren't cheap to fix.
The way he worded his first post tells me he probably hasn't had an engine disassembled on the bench before. He will get his opportunity...
I love guys like the OP. They are a blast to watch and the entertainment is free for me. Sometimes you even get see the bonus when something breaks or goes horribly wrong.
I appreciate all the other feedback guys!
Last edited by Kustrud; Sep 14, 2014 at 08:38 PM.
you're standing up the the fwd controls? I have mids and what I do is let out of the clutch in first get going about 5-10 mph, shift to second, stand up on the pegs, lean forward, grab a handful of clutch and front brake then slip the clutch. I roast the tire until it gets moving pretty good then sit down and hammer the throttle and hang on as it gets squirrely and watch the cloud of smoke in the mirror. I don't do it too often because I can't afford to buy new tires all the time, or replace the clutch when it decides to s**t the bed.
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Tourer
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From: Atlanta
you're standing up the the fwd controls? I have mids and what I do is let out of the clutch in first get going about 5-10 mph, shift to second, stand up on the pegs, lean forward, grab a handful of clutch and front brake then slip the clutch. I roast the tire until it gets moving pretty good then sit down and hammer the throttle and hang on as it gets squirrely and watch the cloud of smoke in the mirror. I don't do it too often because I can't afford to buy new tires all the time, or replace the clutch when it decides to s**t the bed.
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I know it's probably not great for the bike, but how bad is it. To me seems like it'd be harder on a bike dumping it from a stop or putting your tire on a curb/chalk doing a burnout. I just want to be EXTREMELY comfortable on my bike even when there is no traction, I practice locking up the rear in a slight corner just to get the feel of it in case I have to some day, AND a rolling burnout is just plain fun. I've done a few slowly working my way up in length. I start off in first, get rolling maybe 5 mph or so, pull in the clutch, keep feet on pegs, rev it up and dump it, ride till it grabs. I'm not talking redline, I don't have the *****/think that'd probably be much harder on the bike. Wanted some opinions, what would I be hurting the most?
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From: CT
that's what I'm talkin about, nothin like it.