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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 05:24 AM
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Hello guys,

i want to upgrade my 2014 Night Rod with an FOB System. I know i have to marry it with my ECM.
i buyed a used TSSM with 2 FOBS (paired)try to install ist, but when i connect it it goes straight in alarm mode, i cant do anything. for the marrying process i ned to start it, but i cant.
i drive to my hd dealer, he also can do nothing. he dont know nothing.

then i buyed a new TSSM without Fob, but still the same, when i connect it, it goes straight in alarm mode.

i hope the is a guy here who can solve my problem, i would spend 100$ for it.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 05:50 AM
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Your ECM is expecting a TSM.

If you want to install the TSSM you need a virgin ECM and a trip to the dealer.

I would leave the bike without the security system.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 06:04 AM
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Nice 1st post...have the dealer install, if you're willing to pay $$$. Sec'ty systems can be tricky to synch.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ajtwin
Your ECM is expecting a TSM.

If you want to install the TSSM you need a virgin ECM and a trip to the dealer.

I would leave the bike without the security system.
Thanks fot the answer, i just want the FOB system..

can i also reset my ECM?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman24
Nice 1st post...have the dealer install, if you're willing to pay $$$. Sec'ty systems can be tricky to synch.
i still was by the dealer, but they cant it.. i think they dont know what to do.

 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 11:49 AM
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The local independent was able to install the tssm and program the ecm on my 2013 Road King police. It took about 15 minutes. He let me watch. He installed the tssm and had the computer ready before turning on the bike. The computer program guided him through the process. The first thing he did was program in my security code. Next he let me enter the codes for the key fobs. The computer prompted me on what to do. Pretty simple process if you have a computer.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ajtwin
Your ECM is expecting a TSM.

If you want to install the TSSM you need a virgin ECM and a trip to the dealer.

I would leave the bike without the security system.
You don't need a new ECM. At least I didn't several years ago adding security.

Besides replacing the TSM with a TSSM did you get the antenna too?


Here are directions i saved, don't know if they are still relevant?

TSM/TSSM ECM Password Learn Procedure

Step

Action

Confirmation

Notes

1

Set Run switch to Run





2

Turn Ignition key On-Off-OnOff-On-Off-On and then toggle the Left Turn Signal switch twice.





3

Turn Ignition key Off-On

Verify the Check Engine lamp and Security Lamp illuminate briefly and then turn off.

Security lamp will not illuminate on non-security (TSM) Twin Cam models.

4

Attempt normal start one time.

Engine starts and stalls immediately. check engine lamp stays on.

Password has not been learned and sets trouble code P1009, thus stopping fuel flow.

5

Wait 10 seconds

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.

ECM enters Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

6

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.





7

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



8

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.



Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

9

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



10

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.



Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

11

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp light and then turn off. Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



12

Turn Ignition switch OFF. Wait 15 seconds. Turn Ignition switch ON and start engine to confirm the Password Learn Procedure is successful.

Engine will start and remain running. If engine immediately stalls and fails to restart the

Password Learning mode was not successful. Start over at step 1.







The above steps must be timed and performed exactly as described. Any deviation will require you to start again from step 1.










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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tawin
The local independent was able to install the tssm and program the ecm on my 2013 Road King police. It took about 15 minutes. He let me watch. He installed the tssm and had the computer ready before turning on the bike. The computer program guided him through the process. The first thing he did was program in my security code. Next he let me enter the codes for the key fobs. The computer prompted me on what to do. Pretty simple process if you have a computer.
but what program he use?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Vernal
You don't need a new ECM. At least I didn't several years ago adding security.

Besides replacing the TSM with a TSSM did you get the antenna too?


Here are directions i saved, don't know if they are still relevant?

TSM/TSSM ECM Password Learn Procedure

Step

Action

Confirmation

Notes

1

Set Run switch to Run





2

Turn Ignition key On-Off-OnOff-On-Off-On and then toggle the Left Turn Signal switch twice.





3

Turn Ignition key Off-On

Verify the Check Engine lamp and Security Lamp illuminate briefly and then turn off.

Security lamp will not illuminate on non-security (TSM) Twin Cam models.

4

Attempt normal start one time.

Engine starts and stalls immediately. check engine lamp stays on.

Password has not been learned and sets trouble code P1009, thus stopping fuel flow.

5

Wait 10 seconds

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.

ECM enters Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

6

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.





7

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



8

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.



Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

9

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp remains lit for

V-Rod and TC88 with TSSM.

Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



10

Wait until Security Lamp turns off or a minimum of 10 minutes has passed.



Password Learning mode for 10 minutes. Do Not cycle the ignition or disrupt power.

11

Quickly (within 2 seconds) turn Ignition key OFF-ON

Security Lamp light and then turn off. Lamp will not be on for TC88 TSM models.



12

Turn Ignition switch OFF. Wait 15 seconds. Turn Ignition switch ON and start engine to confirm the Password Learn Procedure is successful.

Engine will start and remain running. If engine immediately stalls and fails to restart the

Password Learning mode was not successful. Start over at step 1.







The above steps must be timed and performed exactly as described. Any deviation will require you to start again from step 1.










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can’t do any of these because alarm is tuning every time when I turn on any key
 
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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Call Harley Tech Line and see if they are any help. Ask to talk to a supervisor if the just tell you to go to a dealer.

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