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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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I have a 2010 cvo ultra 585 S&S cams ,SE roller rockers ,tuned with 45000 miles. At 40000 miles it started making a sound like rocks in a tin can. I had the lifters replaced with fueling HP lifters. I thought it was fixed it was for 200 miles. At that time it started ticking when the oil gotten warm like it had a bad lifter. I rode the bike for another 5000 mile and decided to replace the lifters once again. Fueling warrantied the lifters I replaced them with another set. I set the push rods at 3 turns 96 thousandths like the fueling directions. I have S&S push rods 32 tpi.

Now the bike still clatters when the oil gets warm and at idle. Anytime the oil pressure is under 32 psi it ticks.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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You can set more preload if you like. Do you know what the total travel of the plunger in your lifters are. If they are .200" you can set your S&S pushrods witch are 32 tpi to 4 full turns and 3 flats which will equate to approximately .140" preload. Or just add one more revolution to the 3 full turns you have now and that should quiet things down and will put you at .125" preload. If not you might have a little too much wear in the rockers.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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would the rockers be worn out at 45000 mile. possible
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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If you have 32 tpi pushrods set the preload to .140" which would be 4 full turns and 3 flats, should get you there.... Yes the rockers can wear but I would reset the preload first. I think that'll get you there....
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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I was wrong my S&S push rods are 24 tpi I set them tonight at 21 flats still taps at idle.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 74shovel
I was wrong my S&S push rods are 24 tpi I set them tonight at 21 flats still taps at idle.
Are you sure about the 24 tpi. I didn't know that S&S made 24 tpi rods. Heres a link with manufacturer and tpi settings.

http://www.sscycle.com/tech-info/pus...ustment-guide/

Even if they are 24 you can still go 3 more flats.. If you have to, count the threads to make sure.... if they are S&S 32 tpi 3 turns will only put you at .093" and will be noisy at idle.
 

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We use S&S valvetrain components here w/o issues whatsoever.
We load the S&S lifters to .140" to keep valvetrain noise to a bare mimnimum even during thermal expansion at full operating temps.
A Baisley spring, or Zippers shim in the early cam plates, along with the proper viscosity oil as stated in the HD service manual for the ambient temps the bike will be operated in, also helps.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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So Scott if I am reading correctly. You set the s&s a djustibles at Four full turns and four flats. Reason I ask was I am running the 583 EZ starts and was adjusting to four full turns and it seems like excessive valve noise set to this spec.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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I put a 5/16-24 nut on the adjusting screw and it went right on ,didn't bind and ran right on down. I am about ready to through the Fueling lifters in the trash and buy a set of premium S&S lifters
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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I'd have to bet good money that an S&S lifter would quiet things down, unless of course there is something else going on.
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