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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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All in all this is good information. I will break out the t gauges and calipers and do some measuring. You guys have brought up some things I didn't even think about.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mirrmu
that motor will work fine if its from low mileage parts (all from same motor),

when you see these motors apart with 30,40,50,000 miles on them and they are still brand new, just gaskets need a freshen up in a lot of cases
OEM cylinders can be .002" out of round out of the box. The OP is rolling the dice if fitment is not checked but that is his call; he has been given sound advice; why take a chance.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Very interested in your build. I hope it works out very well for you....

I've been waiting for some one to do a budget build on a 103" motor with a woods 222. I believe with the right squeeze this build could get 115 torque and 107 hp. with stock heads milled to 85 cc and a .030 head gasket and if pistons are .010 in the hole it will yield 10.1:1 static and 9.52 dynamic with a ccp of 198 psi. I truly think it'll get there....

Not trying to steer you, I'm hoping someday to get a second bike, a 2014 Super Glide and do just this to the motor. with a good tuner and stock TB and pipes.

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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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so don't ride bike off factory floor, get it straight to a machine shop and get the barrels checked,
 
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by showlowzook
All in all this is good information. I will break out the t gauges and calipers and do some measuring. You guys have brought up some things I didn't even think about.
make sure the cylinders are checked,torque plated with a bore gauge,nit T gauges or calipers
 
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 07:12 AM
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Yep.
Measure the skirt, and dial the manufacturer's piston clearence into the micrometer dial, and "0" the dial bore guage to that reading.
Drop into the clean cylinder and measure top, middle, bottom, and 90 degrees from those as well, will tell the story.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 08:26 PM
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Okay more good info, I will check them out with my tools, and I will be talking to the machinist to see how we need to proceed, piece of mind is worth a lot to me. I want to enjoy riding this thing when it gets back together. This bike is a daily driver with the occasional wild hair mixed in.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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Do not expect that 222/103"/OE heads to have a hp charge.
Bagger combo.
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Originally Posted by mirrmu
so don't ride bike off factory floor, get it straight to a machine shop and get the barrels checked,
Haha! Good one
 
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 12:47 AM
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Okay, a little update, I acquired a set of 103 heads with compression releases, a coworker had them setting on a shelf for the last couple of years. He removed them at 162 miles to replace them with a set of SE heads.
 
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