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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Yes, the piston domes are measured to be 4.6cc. With that, a deck height of .005 on each cylinder, and the .040 gasket it calculates to 9.66 static and 8.96 corrected without the 4 degree offset.
OK, I am with you now. However, I would use a .030" head gasket and install the 4* advance sprocket and shoot for 9.86 static, 9.28 corrected and 192CCP at sea level; may need to correct. That puts you in the neighborhood of snappy, happy 95" engines. You still have to decide what to do with the heads; compression releases would be a good idea. Please don't put a set of 40K miles heads back on that fresh top end. There's the entrance to the rabbit hole.
 

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OK, I am with you now. However, I would use a .030" head gasket and install the 4* advance sprocket and shoot for 9.86 static, 9.28 corrected and 192CCP at sea level; may need to correct. That puts you in the neighborhood of snappy, happy 95" engines. You still have to decide what to do with the heads; compression releases would be a good idea. Please don't put a set of 40K miles heads back on that fresh top end. There's the entrance to the rabbit hole.
That would be correct.... It's a nice reliable performer...
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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OK, I am with you now. However, I would use a .030" head gasket and install the 4* advance sprocket and shoot for 9.86 static, 9.28 corrected and 192CCP at sea level; may need to correct. That puts you in the neighborhood of snappy, happy 95" engines. You still have to decide what to do with the heads; compression releases would be a good idea. Please don't put a set of 40K miles heads back on that fresh top end. There's the entrance to the rabbit hole.
I'm with you on what you are saying and in the end you are saying put off doing anything until it can all be done at once, meanwhile ride with 8.09 compression on an Andrews 37? Really it just seems like I should have waited to put the cam in until I could do the heads, cylinders, and pistons at the same time.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Guild
I'm with you on what you are saying and in the end you are saying put off doing anything until it can all be done at once, meanwhile ride with 8.09 compression on an Andrews 37? Really it just seems like I should have waited to put the cam in until I could do the heads, cylinders, and pistons at the same time.
Sort of saying that but nothing wrong with the configuration I outlined in my last post but, at a minimum, you should have the heads cleaned up, valve job and new guide seals and delay porting for another day. It just depends on what you want to do. How bad do you want more power and how much you want to spend; it's all up to you. We all make decisions based on our own wants and needs based on what we have to work with. Doesn't matter what might be logical or what others think; we all need to get where we want to be.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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Sort of saying that but nothing wrong with the configuration I outlined in my last post but, at a minimum, you should have the heads cleaned up, valve job and new guide seals and delay porting for another day. It just depends on what you want to do. How bad do you want more power and how much you want to spend; it's all up to you. We all make decisions based on our own wants and needs based on what we have to work with. Doesn't matter what might be logical or what others think; we all need to get where we want to be.
Thanks for clearing that up, dj. I had wondered what I should do to get the heads cleaned up after taking them off. I can do a valve job and get the tool to seat new valve guide seals. I'm going with the 95" cylinders, the 4.6CC domed pistons, the .040 gasket, and taking off the cam offset to get 9.66 static and 8.96 corrected. See how that goes and if I feel the itch to do more I'll get the porting, the chamber cced to 84 and the .030 gaskets for 9.96 static and 9.23 corrected. That way I have a lower compression until I can get the releases installed. I'll post up results after I get it dynoed.
 
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I'll enter my experience. I ran the 37s in a stock 88" and like you, I liked the bump in power but it did come on late. Enter a 98" kit from Hillside with the compression bump and the cams came on earlier which was great. I have just installed a set of '07 heads that were cleaned up, shaved .010, valve job and seals. Dyno to come soon, but so far my butt dyno seems to feel the cams are coming on right where Andrews advertises them to. I really like what I've done so far. But I am no genius when it comes to this stuff. DJL 98 and Scott at Hillside are the guys to listen to.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up, dj. I had wondered what I should do to get the heads cleaned up after taking them off. I can do a valve job and get the tool to seat new valve guide seals. I'm going with the 95" cylinders, the 4.6CC domed pistons, the .040 gasket, and taking off the cam offset to get 9.66 static and 8.96 corrected. See how that goes and if I feel the itch to do more I'll get the porting, the chamber cced to 84 and the .030 gaskets for 9.96 static and 9.23 corrected. That way I have a lower compression until I can get the releases installed. I'll post up results after I get it dynoed.
Makes sense but I would retain the 4* advance sprocket and get more compression. That 4* earlier intake close boost corrected CR to just a hair above 9.0 and CCP below 190psi. Since you have the 4* sprocket, I would use it.:con_wink:
 
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I'll enter my experience. I ran the 37s in a stock 88" and like you, I liked the bump in power but it did come on late. Enter a 98" kit from Hillside with the compression bump and the cams came on earlier which was great. I have just installed a set of '07 heads that were cleaned up, shaved .010, valve job and seals. Dyno to come soon, but so far my butt dyno seems to feel the cams are coming on right where Andrews advertises them to. I really like what I've done so far. But I am no genius when it comes to this stuff. DJL 98 and Scott at Hillside are the guys to listen to.
Did you get this dynoed yet?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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Not yet Jay, soon I hope. Life and weather have not been kind so far this Spring.
 
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Not yet Jay, soon I hope. Life and weather have not been kind so far this Spring.
Did you ever get it dynoed? I am on the path to get a 98" and headwork done. Hope to dyno tune in the spring or summer.
 
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